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Old 10-25-2010, 02:42 PM
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Cold side Charge Piping

Where can I get the cold side Charge Piping with the MAF relocation? The only thing I've ever really seen for it was CIA but I'm wondering if there are any other options?
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ZZP has it..

http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...1154&catid=187
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^^^^ That's what's on mine.
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Really not sure if the MAF relocation is a good idea. I've yet to see any information about how accurate our MAF sensor is under pressure. Or longterm effects on the wire.

The advantage of running a MAF is that it's more accurate than something like SD. If you're going to do stuff like move it to be under pressure, I would start worrying about how accurate it stays. Sure you can try to tune around it, but that's a pita.
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Maf relocate works fine under pressure, needs a tune as was stated. ~-7 LTFT's pre tune after MAF relocate but once it's tuned you can change intakes to whatever you want with no shift.

If you blow oil from the breather or the turbo, expect it to get contaminated and need cleaning.
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I was thinking of a MAF relocation as I was going to go bigger turbo with a BOV.
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With a VTA BOV a MAF relocate is a lot easier to tune than the intake MAF sensor. You won't lose metered air every time it pops off.

Another benefit of the MAF relocate is faster fuel trim response by shortening the air control loop before combustion. I used to see a rich spike on throttle with the stock location until it responded to the 02 feedback.
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yup. I like my MAF relocation as well. How ever, Mind you that CIA has the sensor in the 2.5" section of pipe while ZZP uses a 3" section of pipe. I use CIA and the fuel trims went into the -25 area while datalogging for the tune. I just imagine that the ZZP would be easier to tune for only cuz the diameter is closer to stock
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Stupid question, but if I go with a gt-2871 and a BOV can I just recirc that way I don't have to spend the money on the MAF relocation?
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