I look at the gains not necessarily the raw numbers. Dynocoms can read the same as a dynojet as long as they are calibrated properly. Same with a mustang dyno.

Sure my car will make 310 whp on a certain dyno if it made 210 whp on that dyno stock. All relative but the gains are still the same.

 

if you want to dig into my head and find the memory of the wideband read out. sure. go for it. aside from this. nope.

12.9-13.0 afr on the street.
12.4-12.5 on the rollers. without a fan for the first two runs.

 

i agree 100%. take that sucker to the track BBG and tell us what it traps!

 

btw, i am not the one that started this fun. i really don't care what his car made. i do know i am not scared of it. it is the simple fact that the claim of the huge afr change. only way this would happen? if the tuner was commanding the car to run low 12's. care to say what afr the car is supposed to be at?

 

Yeah, thats the ONLY way.

Couldn't be a bad 02 sensor, or anything like that.

He already said what the commanded AFR is supposed to be. So, no need to waste your time here, you can go back to your throne now.

 

So you're saying it will make no difference while you say your 1st 2 runs already made a .5 AFR change? Which BTW, couldn't have been made because it would compensate right? Seems confusing if you use your logic. Ive seen the samething and the car needs a fan lol. I still cant even believe we are arguing a turbo car doesnt need a fan on a air to air intercooler....

He is commanded to .88 lambda btw.


Edit: Just talked to John this morning, he didn't have the logger running for any of the pulls. And the AFR reading was from a tail pipe sniffer.

 

well since this thread is damn old and i am the owner of babdbatguys old car, you all want to know his issue. Its not the tune, i logged when i first got it and the maf dals werent off but maf was off by 1 or so, so nothing was wrong with the tune, timing on the other hand was like 13-14, so i was like wtf. I logged lambda and seen this **** was running a lambda of .83 and below in some spots and was backfiring and had kr. soi changed some ****, and it is still there So since then i detuned the car meaning i turned the boost from i think it was 25 to the now setting of 19 and a spike of 21. and i looked looked at some stuff recently and found one maf was dirty in most cases cause alot of drivabilty issues but this was not the issue, 2 BOV is opening up at high boost, anything molre then 18 itll open only sometimes, and three the BOV

 

the silicone coupler for the bov has itty bitty holes in it and only opens up under aboost spike. so no it wasnt the tune, yes it was the bov.the car was commanding .88 lambda under wot and 180= load. but car was seeing spikes of litterally .79 lambdain spots, where these spikes were there was kr, and misfires of course so problem solved now. i put a different spring in, i think the spring was like a 8lbs spring cuz it was litterlyy like shitting on a toilet looking at the poop hit the water and seeing it bob up and down easily without force. i cant believe this was not found before, but i guess thats what im good at.

 

When Matt took the car from BBG it had 0 tune on it at all. Somehow his dad messed up loading the GMS1 file and Matt ended up retuning the car from scratch. I really have no idea if it was a quick tune or what, he can clarify that one.

The tune WAS good at the time, when I left OH and went home BBG had changed a few things which skewed things. That and the no fan caused some weirdness. Do I think it would've made a ton more HP, no. But prolly 380whp range without the fueling fixed.

Chevy - You have a combo tune on that car now?? Did you remove that Greddy EBC???? (I hate that thing..)
I didn't realize you bought it, Im glad to see it still around here! Whether you hate it or love it, that thing was popular on here for a minute LOL

 

Ol nm I only tune via hptuners..... Yes ebc is gone....... car is fine now It juat breaks all the time lol prob badbaltguys fault lol I changes gears nit booating and by by 3rd gear and casing lol two clutches. One grenaded, clutch master cylinder from who ever installed it, slave cylinder becasuee of the adjustable clutch rod being maxed out........ so all in all I've spent. Like 2k + to fix other peoplea errors and **** hahn charge pipes lol my direct injection pump connector met his friend hot side lol.

 

I would invest in a TF underlay file. I am Broke is in your area and has the cable, Im sure he will help you out for a couple bucks! Well worth the investment to get that straight. Big turbo plus stock fuel pressure is a fail on that car! I ran 25-2600 on another Hahn 20G LNF car and it was night and day! Car pulled quite a bit harder everywhere

 

When I saw this was bumped I was like 'oh no...not this **** again. DIE! DIE! DIE!' but this is a good bump lol. Hopefully you can get it to where it should have been in the first place.

 

I'm hoping...... I am thinking I might go 100% meth for additional fueling I will see. thanks tho about the trifecta/ hptuners. I'll look into it if I don't go meth. I might go with a stand alone fueling system like hahns port fueler. I just like to be the only tuner.

 

I wonder how much that car has had spent on it. Surely it has reached the price of a good C6 Corvette by now.

 

The only thing I can say against the Meth, is they are tempermental at times. The last dyno meet we had EVERY meth car had some stupid thing that was holding it back at first. The fueling increase is always there no matter what Just my .02. Either works tho really!!!

 

Yeah I'm gonna look wutmy best option is. In terms of tuning .... I bought the car for almost 15k with the mods. And I've now put 2210$ since my direct injection pump got broke so there's about 15k in the car yeah if I have 15k laying around id build my rwd 85 celica gts

 

10k at hahn my 2210$ how many times it cost.him to tune it, interior, all the extra **** that came with the car, his greddy ebc, his turbo xs manual boost control, som new lash adjusters, clutches, and springs, new wiring for who ever wireed thrle damn exaust cutout. And more. Lol..