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Front and rear brake informational thread

First, PLEASE dont post in here how you have scoring on your rotors after x miles, any stories related to that, grinding noises etc. There is already PLENTY of threads for that.

What I wanted to do is start a thread that is for purely informational purposes. Post here where you have found sources for rear and front rotors, pads, etc only please! I spent several hours last night gathering up all the information I could find to post here, since I need new rotors and dont want to go through the dealer for them. I would like to update this post as we find CONFIRMED (no "i think" posts please!) data. Here is what I have found so far:

Brakes:
Front rotor GM part number - 15893541
Front Brembo caliper GM part number - FRONT LEFT P #25900763 FRONT RIGHT P# 25900764
Front pads GM part number - ?

Rear rotor GM part number - 15921402
Rear caliper GM part number - 25902073
Rear pads GM part number - 93190338

Where to buy?
Front rotors:
Local dealer
gmpartsdirect - part number 15893541 - $89.43 each
GenuineSaab.com, slotted front rotors - $280/Pair
http://genuinesaab.com/gallery/album...3752.thumb.jpg

Rear rotors:
Your local dealer - $unknown
gmpartsdirect.com - $47.83 each
Crate Engine Depot - Stock GM rotors $74.57 each
GenuineSaab.com rear slotted rotors (machined in house from genuine GM rotors) $182/pair
http://www.genuinesaab.com/catalog/i...orSSTCrear.jpg
R1 SLOTTED rear rotors! $185/pair - r1concepts.com steven@r1concepts.com - currently not listed on their page but if you call or email they can get em to you!

The rear rotors for a 2003 saab 9-3 DO NOT FIT. The measurements are the same, and they use the same pads, but they do not work.
*Note! RockAuto.com at the time of this post does NOT have the right parts listed for the 2008+ SS. Neither does most web pages when you look for the rear (or front) rotors.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_1179-1.jpg

Front pads:
Local dealer - unknown part number

Hawk Pads:
HB548W.590 DTC-30
HB548U.590 DTC-70
HB548N.590 HP Plus
HB548F.590 HPS Performance Street

EBC Pads:
Green stuff - DP21539
Red stuff - DP31539C (ceramic pad)

Rear pads:
OEM rears - Crate Engine Depot - $70.38

Hawk Pads:
HB478E.605 Blue 9012
HB478G.605 DTC-60
HB478S.605 HT-10
HB478Z.605 Performance Ceramic
HB478N.605 HP Plus
HB478F.605 HPS Performance Street

EBC Pads:
Green Stuff - DP21749
Red Stuff - DP31749C (Ceramic pad)

Alternate Rotors:

For reference if you are looking at a site you think may have the parts:
Front - 315.5mm x 26mm rotors, 38mm 4 piston Brembo aluminum calipers.
Rear - vented 292mm x 19.9mm rotors, 40mm single piston iron calipers

The calipers ARE different than the Sport!

Alternate Pads:

Rear pads from a Solstice work, GM part number - ? - I ran these on my car until I got the hawk pads above.

If you have information to add (again, please confirmed only) post it here and I will edit this post to reflect it.

If those are in fact the correct rear pad part numbers for Autozone (I'm sure they are), Advance Auto Parts carries PD1033 pads (usually next day delivery) for under $50 on their website.

NAD1033 are the cheaper versions.

GM Part Number 15921402 (rear rotors): Back Ordered (Part is on national backorder with GM, GM does not currently have an ETA for the part to be released.

Update from Tom at CrateEnginedepot: "I have just sold out yesterday, I had a lot but I guess I was the only one with them. I have them on order so if you want to check back that would be fine.”

So for those of us needing rotors that means there are NONE available unless your local dealer happens to have some in stock.

awwwwww, well what about the Saab 9-3 rotors?

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Originally Posted by wantedSS/TC (Post 4083156)

awwwwww, well what about the Saab 9-3 rotors?

they do NOT work...

Front Pad GM P/N

25808929

The PNs I recieved from a dealer for the rotors and rear pads correspond to the numbers listed, so I'd say that is a current PN.

doesnt r1 concepts make ss/tc rotors?

nope, just check sry guys

I would still stick with the saab rotors to see how they wear

Just a FYI. If you order ANYTHING from GM PartsDirect CALL FIRST and let THEM look up the part number. If you use THEIR on line catalog and order the part acording to THEIR listing and you get the wrong part, even if it is the right number from the on line catalog, you own it. Their are NO returns and definitlely no refunds. READ THE CONDITIONS OF SALE ON THE SITE. Their not kidding. I don't see how they can post a catalog with part numbers according to applications, sell you that part number and not take it back if THEIR catalog is wrong. I, personally, wouldn't order anything from them again even if meant I would have to walk.

In a previous life I was the parts manager for a Pontiac agency so I DO know how to use a parts book.

I am just wondering who sells really good high performance pads, and some slotted/drilled rotors for these cars... I would like to purchase some in the near future.

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Originally Posted by buellfooll (Post 4118454)

Their are NO returns and definitlely no refunds. READ THE CONDITIONS OF SALE ON THE SITE. Their not kidding. I don't see how they can post a catalog with part numbers according to applications, sell you that part number and not take it back if THEIR catalog is wrong. I, personally, wouldn't order anything from them again even if meant I would have to walk.

Yeah, adding my 2 cents about all the parts sources above: it does NOT mean I am recommending them - just that is where I have found parts so far. As a matter of fact gmpartsdirect sent me an email shortly after my order telling me about the backorder. In it they stated reply that you want to cancel or wait. I replied with a cancel request. 7 days later I was delivered TWO sets of rotors.. So not very impressed with them. However they are still the cheapest source as of now.

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Originally Posted by Jbernal4368 (Post 4128056)

I am just wondering who sells really good high performance pads, and some slotted/drilled rotors for these cars... I would like to purchase some in the near future.

Read the original post, toward the bottom. Hawk has an entire line of performance pads, and genuinesaab.com carries machined (slotted) stock rotors, front and rear. I cant vouch for this company, but they do carry a (currently) unique part.
http://www.genuinesaab.com/catalog/p...roducts_id=692
R1 now has the rear slotted rotors, but you need to call

IsItFast do the Saab rotors work because I can no longer drive my car?

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Originally Posted by dthomp2366 (Post 4143922)

IsItFast do the Saab rotors work because I can no longer drive my car?

nope sorry...

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Originally Posted by IsItFast? (Post 4143954)

I still can't say for sure unfortunately. The part I received from the eBay dealer were the front rotors for a BMW 5 series(his mistake still trying to get it corrected).. I do have an extra set of rear rotors from gmpartsdirect, but it would probably cost me as much to ship as buying them directly. I hear you about not driving the car, i've been driving my 9mpg f250 while I wait on the rear brake pads from the hawk hps group buy.

The mesurements I posted are the same for the Saab as our cars, so they should work, but I can't say for sure. If you get a pair and they work please update this thread.

I have a parts guy from GM acquiring them for me but I have Hawk pads already. What model and year saab?

I ordered the Saab 9-3 rear rotors. I'll find out if they fit when I get them. They're coming from CA to MD so it may be 2-5 days until I know.

Straight from the Hawk Catalog:
Front (for 08-up SS Brembo)
HB548W.590 DTC-30
HB548U.590 DTC-70
HB548N.590 HP Plus
HB548F.590 HPS Performance Street

Rear (for 08-up SS/TC only)
HB478E.605 Blue 9012
HB478G.605 DTC-60
HB478S.605 HT-10
HB478Z.605 Performance Ceramic
HB478N.605 HP Plus
HB478F.605 HPS Performance Street

I currently have the HB478F.605 HPS on the rear of my SS/TC. They produce far less dust than the stock pads, and the dust is a very light tan color when observed on the wheel. I've logged just about 1000 miles and the rotors are smooth to the touch.

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Originally Posted by metroplex (Post 4159829)

So the Hawk HPS part number listed by the op for the rear is wrong? It says "Hawk HPS rear - HB525F.540" you say "HB478F.605 HPS Performance Street", so did I order the wrong pads?

HB478F.605 is the proper pad for the TC's. HB525F.540 is for the SS/SC's

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Originally Posted by xray_racer (Post 4160713)

So the Hawk HPS part number listed by the op for the rear is wrong? It says "Hawk HPS rear - HB525F.540" you say "HB478F.605 HPS Performance Street", so did I order the wrong pads?

If you ordered the 525F.540 for your 08 SS/TC, yes they are the wrong pads. The 525's are for the SS/SC as previously mentioned.

I asked Hawk to change their catalog and it took some teeth pulling to make them realize that the SS/TC's used a different pad, and one that is actually the same as the ones used on Solstice/Sky/ Saab 9-3, Volvo S40, and some of the Mazda3 cars. I ordered my 478F.605 via Tirerack by telling them I had a 2005 Mazda3 because they wouldn't use the correct data.

The Hawk catalog has been correctly updated though. The OP should change his post to reflect the correct part #s to avoid any confusion. I also wrote a how-to in case anyone wanted a guide:

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-guide-43/how-changing-rear-brake-pads-2009-ss-tc-coupe-168212/

Also, how to adjust your e-brake:

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-guide-43/how-adjusting-emergency-parking-brake-05-09-cobalt-w-rear-disc-brakes-168592/

I recommend adjusting the e-brake to prevent the rear pads from binding.

Just got a PM from NGA Motorsports and they did send me the right pads. :twothumbs

Saab rotors bolt up but DO NOT FIT our cars. I received some extra pads with the rotors so I put them on the horrible stock rotors until I can find a stock replacement.

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Originally Posted by dthomp2366 (Post 4170630)

Saab rotors bolt up but DO NOT FIT our cars. I received some extra pads with the rotors so I put them on the horrible stock rotors until I can find a stock replacement.

Ok, thanks for that information - sorry you had to be the one to find that out but you probably just saved quite a few people from doing the same. Which Saab did you order the rotors for?

(I'll edit the original post later, posting this from my iPhone in an area with bad reception - it's like being on dialup lol)