I'm really surprized by the general handling. The new revised suspension is so much more better than th SC (No war here, my thought).

The brake... Brembo, what else!

The seat! So much more confortable!

Than the power.. More power but nothing really major, 60 more hp, felt easily but still room for more!

Generally, this is a beast!

And the spare is a 16 incher!!!!!

 

What was your previous car?

 

Spare is a 16 incher and itll fit over the brakes? i guess the person who post you cant have anything lower than 18s was mistaken.

 

Ive seen alot of TC owner say they have 55- 60 hp over a SC , its more like 20-25 hp to be truthful. Now torque is another thing.

 

hahaha

it only fit's on the rear

so a front flat means

jack rear, change rear with spare
jack front, change front, replace with rear

done! a little logic goes a long way on that one - it's in the manual, I think :-)

JK

 

20hp to somewhere about even - over a stage 2. Over a stock one (no stage) no one has done a dyno comparison, but its going to be more than 20-25 hp. Engine rated HP the Turbo does have 55hp over the stock (no stage) Supercharged.

 

the ss/sc was underrated though. most made a little better than 205 at the wheels, so at the crank they weren't -that- much less powerful than the new TCs.

but again, the torque is an entirely different story.

 

Here is why everyone with SS/TC will end up having to get 18inch winter tires/rims.........Having a smaller sized tire or rim on the car is BADDDD for the LSD(if u=smart and get/got one) So....ATTENTION ALL SS/TC LSD OWNERS......when your thinking about getting winter tires/rims, talk to your dealerships service department before trying to squeeze 17's on there.........i was thinking about it too but after having a talk with someone i used to work with at GM i've since changed my mind.

 

I have never heard such complete bullshit in my life...

 

The offset, width, and backspacing are all totally different on a donut spare, so, one could easily fit the front of the car. Still a bad idea with the LSD option, however.

 

As someone else already stated the 205hp rating on the SS/SC is underated . I stand behind my earlier statement 20-25 hp gain over a stock lsj.

 

Not so with the ss/tc - owner's manual specifically says it won't clear.

You're a little off...the LSD won't car what you have on the front, as long as they are of equal size. i.e. don't put a spare on one side with a stocker on the other.

 

My car stock is putting down 240whp. If it puts down 205whp, thats still over 25hp. Whatever, it doesn't matter!

 

i had a stage 2 supercharged cobalt with some extra mods stay even with me from like 35-80. from a dig, i think the ss/tc would have took it. but its still a close call.

 

Your right it really doesn't matter , but if you look at most stock SS/SC dyno's they are between 210- 220 HP . You can claim you have 55HP over a SC all you want , but it's closer to half of that.

Don't take this the wrong way , i'm not a SS/TC hater , or jealous of the car . It's just that the stock HP rating on the SS/SC was very underated so i like to let people know that. The Turbo car is a step forward no doubt about it , it's just that people really like to throw this 60 extra HP claim around ... even the magazines.

 

Really?


The above data was taken from another thread in the LNG sub-forum.

So, you mean to tell me, the stage 2 kit only adds 17 whp?

 

dyno does not mean a thing. ALL dynos are different, its a tool for your own comparison, not to compare to others

 

Again, it doesnt matter - its been agreed that a race between a stage 2 and a turbo balt would be a drivers race (in a straight line) - I think we can all agree on that. GM has, over the last couple of years, finally gotten their act together. I cant wait to see what they come up with next.

 

albeit thts a bit better as its comparing 2 cars on the same dyno. still. not good for comparing 2 ss/scs

 

well...i havent looked at any tc dynos lately but...assuming they are underated like the tc, that allows anywhere from 40-50hp over a stock underated sc....lets face it lsj's....your just not the king pin anymore

 

I don't see how it's a driver's race with 55 lb ft of tq more than the SS/SC Stage 2. That just doesn't make any sense.

Same dyno, same day. **** your couch

 

lol read my post after tht, i type to slow

 

haha...anyone knows the tc isnt going to make 50hp over a stg 2 ss/sc...i forget the exact mark...but 240ish sounds right...hhmm not a 50 lb difference

 

Are you blind or just stupid?

SC stage 2 = 203 wheel toruqe
TC stock = 258 wheel torque

Hence, 55 lb ft of tq more than the SC Stage 2.

 

[QUOTE=MapOfTaziFoSho;2616236]Really?


The above data was taken from another thread in the LNG sub-forum.

So, you mean to tell me, the stage 2 kit only adds 17 whp?[/QUOTE]

yea prety much.. the most i heard from just a stage 2 is about 20-25 whp.... stock is underrated and stage 2 gains are overrated. I gaurantte a stock ss/.sc on that same dyno would put down over 205whp