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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho
I don't see how it's a driver's race with 55 lb ft of tq more than the SS/SC Stage 2. That just doesn't make any sense.



Same dyno, same day. **** your couch
look at times.. their practically identical.. the ss.tc might have a VERY SLIGHT edge on the ss/sc ... but the 55lb ft of tq is really not going to make that huge of a difference if even any difference at all
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jkonkle
hahaha

it only fit's on the rear

so a front flat means

jack rear, change rear with spare
jack front, change front, replace with rear

done! a little logic goes a long way on that one - it's in the manual, I think :-)

JK
lol i forgot the brembos are only in the front lol what a stupid thing to forget.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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wow.... tht power curve is HORRIBLE!!!
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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The ss/sc stage 2 has longer gearing as well, which may help more on the street, I have drove a ss/tc and it was faster than a stage 2 but not by much
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho
Are you blind or just stupid?

SC stage 2 = 203 wheel toruqe
TC stock = 258 wheel torque

Hence, 55 lb ft of tq more than the SC Stage 2.
lmfao you newb..get the **** off the internet you dont even know how to use it properly....any ******* stage 2 on this site is going to make more than 203 whp unless they are experiencing blowby....what a doucher....i swear this site really has gone to ****
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by blk ss/sc 1
look at times.. their practically identical.. the ss.tc might have a VERY SLIGHT edge on the ss/sc ... but the 55lb ft of tq is really not going to make that huge of a difference if even any difference at all

Are you shitting me! You don't think 55 lb ft of torque is going to make a difference...LMFAO!

IIRC the times are from different drivers at different tracks...etc.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho
Are you blind or just stupid?

SC stage 2 = 203 wheel toruqe
TC stock = 258 wheel torque

Hence, 55 lb ft of tq more than the SC Stage 2.
here is my dyno at 98 degrees after the stg 2
note: the red line is before the stg2
and the blue is after the stg2 w/o the manifold
and the bottom line its not the tq curve its the air fuel

hey noob i even did you a favor and found a dyno sheet:
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mike25
lmfao you newb..get the **** off the internet you dont even know how to use it properly....any ******* stage 2 on this site is going to make more than 203 whp unless they are experiencing blowby....what a doucher....i swear this site really has gone to ****

You're an idiot! I was comparing torque to the wheels...learn to ******* READ!


Oh yes, I'm a big ******* newbie...thank you for helping me discover that I have no idea what I'm talking about...I greatly appreciate your depth and breadth of knowledge.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho
You're an idiot! I was comparing torque to the wheels...learn to ******* READ!
ok fanboi you got me there....but any retard knows a stg2 is going to make more than 203tq to the wheels...which still makes you sounds like a ******* RETARD.....

Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho
You're an idiot! I was comparing torque to the wheels...learn to ******* READ!


Oh yes, I'm a big ******* newbie...thank you for helping me discover that I have no idea what I'm talking about...I greatly appreciate your depth and breadth of knowledge.
you are...on more than one occasion ive seen you make douche bag posts....your the exact reason this sight is turning to ****

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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mike25
ok fanboi you got me there....but any retard knows a stg2 is going to make more than 203tq to the wheels...which still makes you sounds like a ******* RETARD.....
Wow, you really are ******* retarded. I just posted dyno plots of an SC stage 2 that put down 203 wheel torque. And on that same day, a stock TC put down 256 wheel torque...on the same ******* dyno.

Blind and stupid...

Seriously, did you make it past grammar school?
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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nope going from past experience...your dyno is the first ive seen that low...hhmm odd wouldnt you say....anyways...back on topic...and actually yes i did pass gram school and i even graduated top of my highschool class...so what next?....
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mike25
nope going from past experience...your dyno is the first ive seen that low...hhmm odd wouldnt you say....anyways...back on topic...and actually yes i did pass gram school and i even graduated top of my highschool class...so what next?....
I ask because you sure as hell did a terrible job with reading comprehension on everything I posted. You should have re-read before going off on that tirade...

Dynapacks typically read lower than dynojet, but higher than mustang.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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my apologies...i wish would could get side by side comparisons on a mustang dyno...people on here have just began to start using dynapacks..i personally dont car for them ...seems to me like a cheap excuse for a dyno...
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by originaladrian
wow.... tht power curve is HORRIBLE!!!

which one?

from the graph of LNF vs. S2 LSJ, the LNF makes more power & torque at every point, although I wouldn't say the S2 LSJ power curve was bad, and the LNF is high...so how could it be worse?
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho
Really?

Overlay of my Stage 2 SC (no other mods) vs. Stock SS/T (only 75 miles on the odo)
**Stage 2 SC: 227whp/203ft lbs**
**SS/T: 237whp/258 ft lbs**
(Dotted Line = Stage 2 SC, Solid Line = SS/T)

The above data was taken from another thread in the LNG sub-forum.

So, you mean to tell me, the stage 2 kit only adds 17 whp?
Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho



Same dyno, same day. **** your couch
Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho
I ask because you sure as hell did a terrible job with reading comprehension on everything I posted. You should have re-read before going off on that tirade...

Dynapacks typically read lower than dynojet, but higher than mustang.

Here is a near stock (intake exhaust) SS/SC dyno sheet from the same dyno the stage 2 SC and TC were on. 220hp 190tq.



Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho
I don't see how it's a driver's race with 55 lb ft of tq more than the SS/SC Stage 2. That just doesn't make any sense.
Here is how it makes sense to me , LOOK at the torque curve on the TC . When your racing how much time do you spend below 4000 rpm? Not much after 1st gear right? The TC's monster torque falls off from 260 at 4K to 220 at 4500rpm. It keeps on falling from there to redline. Now if the TC made 260tq all the way threw the rpm range then i could see it really blowing the SC away , until then its a drivers race.

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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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well i tell you what...when i put my turbo on here in two weeks ill come to you and dyno right along side of you....then well see whos making more power....anyways...it doesnt really matter
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 11:37 PM
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All that because I got Mine! WOW, I'm so happy with this one. So much better feeling over my 2006 SC!!

Engine is minor in this car!

Handling is averything!
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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they changed the hp rating on the ss/tc to sae which are much more realistic,

so yes the ss/sc are underrated

and the ss/tc should be right on...

hence why the ss/tc is dynoing 240whp seeing a drivetrain loss of 20hp,

were as the ss/sc dynoes anywhere from 205-215whp about 235-240 flywhp hence why the ss/tc dosent feel much faster to people.(dont quote me on #'s just an example)
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
they changed the hp rating on the ss/tc to sae which are much more realistic,

so yes the ss/sc are underrated

and the ss/tc should be right on...

hence why the ss/tc is dynoing 240whp seeing a drivetrain loss of 20hp,

were as the ss/sc dynoes anywhere from 205-215whp about 235-240 flywhp hence why the ss/tc dosent feel much faster to people.(dont quote me on #'s just an example)

I'm going to shoot one of the GM powertrain engineers and email on this come Monday.
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