so does the GMS1 recognize add ons like this k&n Kit and adjust accordingly or does this learn down still come into play?

 

It recognizes them, and does NOT learn down, unless you are over spinning your turbo, and then it would learn it down some so your not damaging your car.

BUT, to the OP: BADASS!!! Looks great, I bet it sounds great too!!! Now we just need to know how much it skews the MAF!!!!!

 

The issue is not how much it skews the LTFT as that can be tuned out but the more important issue is how the driveability is like surging, BPV flutter etc.

 

Exactly. Need some logs of it so we can investigate further. The MAF skew can be tuned out properly, it just takes time and effort.

I'd be happy to run one and log it for a month, hell, it'd only be about my 50th intake test.

 

again NOT EVERYONE is going to do a after market tune...just because you did doesnt mean 80% of everyone else will. Many people buy parts with out tuning.

 

Unfortunately K&N did the kit on a stock car (is what it seems by the numbers) and the real gains won't be known until somebody bolts it up to a car with the GMS1. Tuning for the kit nets somewhat skewed results since retuning will most likely add more power than the kit actually produces. Fuel trims will be nice to have once it is released to the general public.

 

I'm concerned about K&N advertising such gains... Yes the runs were both on the same day, and that's the problem. I guess when the computer "figure things out" and learns down() it adjusts for any gain. So except for better spool time, you're buying this mainly for sound if you don't get a tune on top of it... Just a thought.

Louis

 

Has anybody tried to place a honeycomb element in front of the MAF on an aftermarket intake to maybe help with the MAF skew? I would like to see some results on such a venture. Maybe a short coupler with the honeycomb built into it. Find someone with an old LS1 or LT1 MAF and use the element out of it.

 

Not that I'm aware of, but I don't think it would help the Hahn a lot since the MAF is quite a bit upstream in a straight part of the duct. I'd try it if I had one. Not gonna take the one out of the TA though. It may help the AEM a lot since the MAF is right behind the filter. Even tuned, the Hahn LTFT's wander quite a bit day to day. Still runs the best of the many I've tried. (Dejon SRI, AEM CAI, Airbox mod/K&N & finally the Hahn CAI)

I'd try the K&N SRI if it's not too pricey. Maybe a free sample? lol

 

looks like a nice piece.

 

I might be interested in buying it...

 

Did K&N leave the snorkel piece from the bottom of the air box to the front bumper ....on? It looks like it in the pics but i can't tell for sure.

 

looks good!

 

where in victorville??? i stay out here too

 

The K&N system doesn't require a tune. They spent over 4 months developing this system to get the MAF placement perfect. That is the big difference between a tuner shop trying to develop something opposed to a company like K&N that has experience building hundreds of systems.

If you've got a lot of mods a tune is something that needs to be done to optimize the performance. I'll be getting this system for our SS/TC as soon as I can and I'll post my results.

 

Let me know when they are available and I'll test one also with my mods.

 

I hope it works better than the AEM one!

 

I hope they stand by that guy's statement, people will be putting that statement to the test.

 

Yes. Good eye.

I live over by the mall side. Amethyst/Luna that area. You?

 

Any estimates on pricing when this thing comes out? I have a feeling it's not going to be cheap coming from K&N...That style filter alone from K&N is pretty darn expensive if my memory serves correct.

 

I have stg 1 and I am going to get this peice when it is available, I have never had any problems out of their products on any of my cars.

 

The driveability issue with the intakes happen regardless of whether you're stock or custom tuned. I'm willing to bet that the K&N is just as bad as the others in this respect seeing how close the MAF is to the filter. The only thing that MAY help the K&N is the use of that filter with the spiral, cone on the end. That may just help "swirl" the air and reduce the turbulence at the maf. These intake manufacturers need to get someone knowledgeable (no disrespect to the testers) that knows what to look for with logging capability rather than someone that simply says "looks good, sounds good" as everyone has done so far.

 

Well this is a very exciting development...K&N builds some nice stuff.....I am eager to see the price

 

that intake looks badass, piping diameter looks small though...2.75 turning into a 3" at the weld maybe?

 

yessir and after the new years they will be getting the car back for a downpipe, exhaust and are throwing in the intercooler piping for me...

i dont understand what you mean by a tuner shop? aem has done intakes for a long time as well as injen. now if you are comparing it to dejon... and or hahn then i see what you mean...