Yea, LSJ's are nice, if you like that whine

 

This is a cobalt ss forum....we are all cobalt ss.....the whole forum is for cobalts. Don't put walls up, we all drive the same car. We stick together.

I'm gunna use that one.

Who doesn't enjoy whine? Its different that the vroom-pssh you hear all day. And BTW:

Turbo LSJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LNF

 

I don't hear any of the noises above ....

Turbo LSJ is noice, b/c there's tuning available for it (full capabilities).

 

no the reason why they are not keeping them in stock gm does not want to make to many balts and they dont sell this is the main reason why gm sales are down because because they make to many cars and they dont sell i work for the biggest chevy dealer in boston and the you could start ordering them on april 7 and the pickup is around depending on the upgrades you add is 2-4 weeks not june that will mean it will be the third quarter which the realease date is the 2ns quarter i dont know if you guys are familiar with car manufactures but if you dont release a car on its release date it screws up sales,profits and the release of other cars im buying and mine should be done april 29

 

Its also cheaper though.

Heck the LE5 turbo will end up out preforming it as well.

And most cars vroom-pssh. I value being different, and I would rather have whine than (vroom-pssh)

 

So..... What if I place an order tomorrow? When do you think it will be ready???

I thought about turbocharging my 2.4, b/c it's a bigger engine, & that most likely means more power, but then I saw the SS/TC, & it has a warranty... I'm sold on that.

 

Has there even been a LSJ to break 300WHP on a Mustang Dyno? I doubt they make that number even on a 2.5 Pully, theres a guy over on the Solstice Forums that swapped his LNF Turbo out for a GT35R and is making 380 Something Horse at the wheels, and its RWD

Superchargers take power to make power, turbo power is free

 

Well yes, it has more displacement. The LNF is a monster to tune as well. Can't just bolt on stuff and make power.

Also the tranny is iffy on the new balts. And GM isn't planning on releasing stage kits....so.

Dude a mustang dyno reads lower numbers first off. SECONDLY, yes there has. Look up a turbo LSJ breaking 323 whp on a bad clutch and not relaly tuned. Makes closer to 400 now. The person is a member on here.

Secondly it just wasn't tossing another turbo on there. TONS of tuning went into that. And the LNF with its direct injection is different to tune.

Also depends on what you want. For auto cross supercharging, due to instant boost can be better. Its not just 'free' power.

 

Autocrossing instant power?

The TC Cobalts Has Full 260tq Available at 2000 RPM, thats alot lower then the Supercharged Models Which needs like 5Kish rpm to get full tq out of it, and i know the Mustang Dynos read lower, thats why i specifically mentioned that kind, because that is what your likely to see on the street, not the overinflated dyno-queen DynoJet Numbers

Also on a side note, can someone confirm that the low profile wing is the same design as the High Profile One?

Looking from these pics it appears that there are two different kinds, the High Profile wing as shown on the three cars in this pic, and the small Low Profile one like the LT and other base model Cobalts have, there all SS/TCs just the wings are different so im assuming the base model style wing is the low pro while the others are the optional bigger one

 

No car has FULL TORQUE at 2K rpm. That's the basics of a SC and a TC. You mayve a little lag, but its there, sc....none.

And that's just backwards in general, 5K is almost about to shift and I by daily driving I know thats a total lie.


And the Hi-Pro, or low pro is all an option. You can get it any way you like.

 

^^^^^^Sexy

 

Torque and Horsepower are two completely different things, The SS/TC Reaches full Torque @ 2000 RPM, after 2K its not many any more "power" its just making more Revolutions which is increasing the given HP Value

Your S/C isent exactly instant either, im sure youve noticed if you floor it from a low RPM that it creates that sudden boost, but it dosent peak out until it gets up pretty high in the RPM Range, with the Turbo model its @ full Boost @ 2000 RPM, no waiting for the last few pounds to kick in

 

Horsepower comes form some formula of torque @ rpm. I am talking about torque.

An SC in general is more instant than a TC, even small ones. There is no way an exhaust driven, high end HP making force induction method makes full boost-torque at below 3K.

The LNF has the launch control and all that crap, but that doesn't mean it makes FULL TORQUE at 2K.

It looks the same form the back.

 

lol

 

No reason to lock. Forums are for discussion.

And as a response that I fore see coming:

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...o+supercharger

 

ohhh didn't no that the lock meant to lock the forum, it just looked cool. there will always be fighting between turbo and supercharge, but we all like the cobalt ss or we wouldn't be here right? so hey if you like supercharged cool and if you like turbocharged cool does it matter?

 

The Turbo is so small on these cars its practically spooled up at idle, it makes over 200 pounds of torque @ like 1300 RPM and its full 260tq rating @ 2000 RPM, way below 3K

 

exactly....


point is, these cars were tested many times over, and the tests show that it has it's full 260 ft/lb of torque at or just over 2000rpm. And if you still don't believe it, then I guess you're just gonna have to take one for a ride when they come out to see for yourself how the car feels at 2000rpm. If you think it's kinda a dog like most cars at that rpm...then I guess you were right in saying that GM is lying about their car's test numbers.

 

I am aware its small. I'm pretty sure its the same one on the Mazdaspeed 3's...and even those don't make all that power at 2K.

1st: I never said that these were gunna make NO power under / at 2K. Just not full.

2nd: Yes GM is always 100% truthful on their track numbers and production numbers.

3rd: Does driving a Sky redline count? Same engine? Full torque is around 3-4. Its easy to feel.

 

Well the car makes 250 ft lbs of torque at 1500 rpm which is impressive, there is a difference with this turbo and others in the market, because the turbo is always spooled up because the bypass valve keeps incoming air boosted but circulating through the intake not really entering the engine until it is needed.

 

I'm not denying it makes power in the low end. I've eaten candy bigger than that turbo, of course it makes low end power.

But its not making its max potential at 2K. 2.8K-4K I can see, but not that low.

 

That could be true, but that is still impressive for the size

 

I agree. The SS/TC will be an awesome car. Its a small turbo its made to spool up quickly. TT cars have a small one and a big one, the small one for the low end torque.

 

Twin turbo, now that would be really fun.

 

Very true! they need to put two in there lol

Aren't you doing that?