Is it ok to....
Is it ok to....
Turn off my car right away when I'm only driving 5 miles to work in the morning and my pressure gauge never leaves vacuum? In other words, do I only have to let the car sit for a little bit before I shut it off if I go into Boost? What are your opinions on "turbo timers?" Sorry I have never owned a turbocharged car before, this is new to me.
Yea, Turbo timers are very overrated for the most part. Unless your beating the car around town then stop immediately and turn off the car you'll be ok. So don't worry, just treat it like a normal car.
Turn off my car right away when I'm only driving 5 miles to work in the morning and my pressure gauge never leaves vacuum? In other words, do I only have to let the car sit for a little bit before I shut it off if I go into Boost? What are your opinions on "turbo timers?" Sorry I have never owned a turbocharged car before, this is new to me.
What you don't want to do is push the engine into boost before its warmed up, or run the car very hard (boost) and then shut it off right away.
If I remember correctly, our turbos are combo (water and oil) cooled. The water cooling aspect lets us not worry about turbo timers. Cars that are oil-cooled-turbos-only benefit from turbo timers, as oil can hold enough residual heat to damage the turbo, etc.
Again, I am going off my reading here, and it's been a while, but I think that was the gist.
Again, I am going off my reading here, and it's been a while, but I think that was the gist.
Last edited by Axelthered05; Aug 10, 2011 at 12:28 AM.
he said that his car is always in vacuum, so whats up with that? Mine is always in vacuum as well. When i shut the car off its at 20lbs, and when i get back in the car, even the next day, its still in vacuum...whats up with that?
I have an SC and after some hard pulls, racing, spirited driving etc I let it sit for a few mins before I shut it off. However even in a turbo car, as long as you havent been shittin and gettin it, you're prolly ok to shut off right away.
It is fine to shut the car off right after parking. Oil + water cooling means coking is less likely. Also, think of it this way -- the car has a 160,000km / 5 year powertrain warranty. If you were supposed to let it cool down before shutting it off, it would be in the owner's manual, like old turbo RX7's (I'm pretty sure it was in their manual).
If shutting the car off before it's "cool" causes you to kill your turbo, then warranty that. If it's past the 5 year mark, all the more reason to get a bigger turbo! At least that's my theory.
If shutting the car off before it's "cool" causes you to kill your turbo, then warranty that. If it's past the 5 year mark, all the more reason to get a bigger turbo! At least that's my theory.
Coming from a diesel truck with a tune and gauges, I can tell you that by the time you make it to your parking spot even after getting on it hard, the exhaust gas has cooled to normal levels and you can safely shut it down with no problems.
The magic number for EGT's for me was 350 degrees to shut down, 1250 all day long, spikes above that are fine, back off the skinny pedal when you're sustaining higher than 1250 degrees for any longer than 5-10 seconds.
As I said, even when I hammered on the truck hard- by the time I got to my parking spot the EGT's had cooled to shut down levels 99% of the time. A smaller turbo such as in a Cobalt will itself be cooler in a shorter amount of time since there is less material to trap heat.
If you are really concerned about anything- just install an EGT gauge and take note at the temps you run. I will be putting one in my car soon because it's an invaluable tool for knowing when it's running abnormally.
If you're hell-bent on installing a "turbo timer" then get one that actually has a thermocouple and shuts down based on temperature. The ones that have a preset or adjustable timer are pointless. They will either shut the engine down too soon, rendering the product useless, or let the car idle excessively and waste fuel.
All in all- I've read a lot of information over the years about oil coking and turbo timers etc and my opinion is this: Oil coking just isn't something anyone here should be concerned about. Ever.
The magic number for EGT's for me was 350 degrees to shut down, 1250 all day long, spikes above that are fine, back off the skinny pedal when you're sustaining higher than 1250 degrees for any longer than 5-10 seconds.
As I said, even when I hammered on the truck hard- by the time I got to my parking spot the EGT's had cooled to shut down levels 99% of the time. A smaller turbo such as in a Cobalt will itself be cooler in a shorter amount of time since there is less material to trap heat.
If you are really concerned about anything- just install an EGT gauge and take note at the temps you run. I will be putting one in my car soon because it's an invaluable tool for knowing when it's running abnormally.
If you're hell-bent on installing a "turbo timer" then get one that actually has a thermocouple and shuts down based on temperature. The ones that have a preset or adjustable timer are pointless. They will either shut the engine down too soon, rendering the product useless, or let the car idle excessively and waste fuel.
All in all- I've read a lot of information over the years about oil coking and turbo timers etc and my opinion is this: Oil coking just isn't something anyone here should be concerned about. Ever.
On the stock K04, you don't have to do any cool down procedure. It isn't in any OEM's best interest to pray that their owners know to let a oil cooled turbo sit before shutting down, so they make it a combo unit. The turbo timers are only a real concern for people who install an aftermarket setup and run a standard oil cooled turbo.
Nighthawk243- regarding your post: The turbo in my 8,000 pound truck was cooled by oil only. I never EVER saw the need to install a turbo timer or similar device.
The definitive answer to this entire thread is going to be what I've already said: Procure, install, and monitor your EGT gauge. PERIOD.
The definitive answer to this entire thread is going to be what I've already said: Procure, install, and monitor your EGT gauge. PERIOD.



