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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Canadians. Jeez! We had hundreds of inches of snow last year and temps dropped below -40 F the year before.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Black08SSTC
okay, so this has been covered 100000000 times. How do those 2.4L SS/NA 17" wheels fit however my 05-06 18" SS/SC wheels do not fit at all????
good question then in thoery they should work. because the ss/na wheels fit on a ss/sc and vise versa, so if the ss/na wheels fit on the ss/tc, why not the ss/sc?
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fballman1987
good question then in thoery they should work. because the ss/na wheels fit on a ss/sc and vise versa, so if the ss/na wheels fit on the ss/tc, why not the ss/sc?
Simple, SC wheels have thicker spokes that are closer to the caliper than the NA wheels.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
Simple, SC wheels have thicker spokes that are closer to the caliper than the NA wheels.
I've searched, and I come up with those needing 15mm spacers to work on the SS/TC. Can anyone verify this? I might be the only one whose got a set of 18" SS/SC wheels with snow tires ready to use, but don't know what spacer size to buy.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MARIN007
In the defense of the members concerned about being able to access Competition Mode, maybe they do not realize what Canadian winter consists of. Basically we're (Toronto) facing temperatures averaging from 10 Celcius (50 degrees Fahrenheit) down to -20 Celcius (-4 F). And that is not factoring in windchill. I have seen and felt -30 Celcius (-24 F), that was scary...then wind hit my face...that was f*cked!

Add snow, hail, freezing rain and bad drivers...I try to stay off the roads as much as possible, but when I do have to drive, you better believe I won't be in Competition Mode, lol.
Man, you Torontonians have nothing to complain about. In North Bay I've seen -52C with the wind chill before

I'm not worried about this winter... 17" winter alloys (BSA Model 264s, with 3mm spacers on the front) and Gizlaved snow tires. The Swedish really know how to deal with snow.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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For all you spacer freaks out there.

Back in 1995, I bought a Big Brembo brake kit for my 95 mustang GT. I also had 1996 Cobra wheels. There wasn't even enought room to stuff 4 pieces of paper thickness between the wheels and the caliper. At first I was worried but really had no choice if I wanted to run the big Brembos. I ran like that for months without problems.


He'll be fine. Wheels don't move into calipers or vice versa. - unless you hit a curb like the post above stated. Take it from someone who knows.

Some of you guys worry to damn much ie(warranty issues anyone).
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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http://www.finishlinewheels.com/CHEVY/COBALT/2007/

I found this site, seems pretty good. Any input?
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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the reason why your T.P.M.S. light took a little while for it to come on and the reason it came on at all is do to the monitors going into sleep mode the monitors have to be in motion to keep on when it read the wheels where spinning and the moniters wherent they turned them selves off i know this cause ive been to 20 classes or so for T.P.M.S. or so because of my work
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by shabodah
Canadians. Jeez! We had hundreds of inches of snow last year and temps dropped below -40 F the year before.
Originally Posted by Force
Man, you Torontonians have nothing to complain about. In North Bay I've seen -52C with the wind chill before

I'm not worried about this winter... 17" winter alloys (BSA Model 264s, with 3mm spacers on the front) and Gizlaved snow tires. The Swedish really know how to deal with snow.
I'm not complaining you freezing flamingoes, just justifying the lack of need for Competition Mode.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MARIN007
Hey everyone,

Just got the winter setup put on today. Wheels off a 2.4L Cobalt and General Altimax Arctic winter tires (205/50/17). I got the tires brand new for a great price from a friend of a friend that works at a tire/wheel shop.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Altimax+Arctic

The weird part is that I left the shop with the stock wheels/tires all in plastic bags in the back seat/trunk, and after about 25 minutes of driving, the tire pressure monitor warning on the dash lit up. I was expecting the light to come on when the wheels would be removed from the car and were far enough away for the sensors to not pick up the tire pressure.

So I can't really figure out why the warning light turned on when the wheels were still inside the car. Any ideas? Meh, whatever, I'm prepared for winter. I can deal with a little yellow warning light as long as I have some traction in the Canadian sh*t storm to come.

Sorry for the cell phone quality. The car's starting to look a lot like my '06 2.4SS!


Got clearance?


"Warning: You are driving with no wheels. Please take your vehicle to your nearest GM dealership"
The ss/tcs speedo goes up to 260!
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jvc06sc
The ss/tcs speedo goes up to 260!
Omg no wai! So does the SC!

The mph one definitely looks better the kph one is too cluttered.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Acey
Omg no wai! So does the SC!

The mph one definitely looks better the kph one is too cluttered.
You're entitled to your opinion of course, but I bet part of why you like it is because it's what you grew up with. Just like I grew up with the metric system so I like km/h better.

But I do like PSI much more than kPa, so that's why I got an OEM American boost gauge for my car.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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I just got some blizzaks.. bring on the snow!
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MARIN007
You're entitled to your opinion of course, but I bet part of why you like it is because it's what you grew up with. Just like I grew up with the metric system so I like km/h better.

But I do like PSI much more than kPa, so that's why I got an OEM American boost gauge for my car.
I like km/h and I am Canadian and metric is buckets better than customary... I just wouldn't mind (if I get an SC) the 2.0 cluster to be mph.

I think I saw a pic of the CSRT-4 speedo and it goes up to 180/290. That thing must be drag limited well before the Cobalt.

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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho
Hi, welcome to the 08-09 SS/TC section. Please read the stickies at the top before commenting on running spacers.
I don't think you understood my original post. I realize that 17's are the minimum rim size that can be put on the TC and I was running 16's. Nowhere did I mention that he could run 16's. My point was that on my 2.4L the calipers are REALLY close to the inside of the rim when I run the steelies. Close doesn't mean **** though because they are torqued properly and they do not touch. It's not like the lug nuts can tighten even more while I am driving. As long as they are not touching you are good to go...that was my point.

I appreciate your comment though...it put a smile on my face.

Originally Posted by shabodah
Canadians. Jeez! We had hundreds of inches of snow last year and temps dropped below -40 F the year before.
Yeah man, us Canadians know nothing about snow.

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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 12:14 AM
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Tire light on is because the PCM is not trained for the sensors(if any) on your new setup. You have two sensors for each corner.

On the Jeep libertys if we had to retrain the PCM we had a special magnet for it and ran through the cycle on the DIC panel.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackout06LS
Tire light on is because the PCM is not trained for the sensors(if any) on your new setup. You have two sensors for each corner.

On the Jeep libertys if we had to retrain the PCM we had a special magnet for it and ran through the cycle on the DIC panel.
There just isn't sensors. I didn't get a new set for my wheels either... I'll take a little orange light between the tach/speedometer all winter over paying $45/sensor any day. It's not like checking tire pressure manually takes all that much effort.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Force
There just isn't sensors. I didn't get a new set for my wheels either... I'll take a little orange light between the tach/speedometer all winter over paying $45/sensor any day. It's not like checking tire pressure manually takes all that much effort.
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Also, traction control off and competition mode DO still work with this tire pressure sensor being confused.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MARIN007
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Also, traction control off and competition mode DO still work with this tire pressure sensor being confused.

Odd, mine won't go on.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Force
There just isn't sensors. I didn't get a new set for my wheels either... I'll take a little orange light between the tach/speedometer all winter over paying $45/sensor any day. It's not like checking tire pressure manually takes all that much effort.
What is the setup for the SS/TC?

Most of the setups I've seen is two sensors at each corner relaying information.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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i did a double take at the speedo
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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To the original poster. Whats the final verdict? Did these rims work for you?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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To the original poster. Whats the final verdict? Did these rims work for you?
Yes sir. There is a little bit of clearance just like in the sticky thread at the top of the page when another member tried it out. These rims fit, they do not touch the Brembos at any point, and they will never touch the Brembos as long as they are torqued down properly.

I have yet to see how these winter tires handle the snow, but I will be sure to report on my findings. I have confidence in them from reading other good reviews, the nice softness factor of them and the deep tread. Should be a smooth winter.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MARIN007
Yes sir. There is a little bit of clearance just like in the sticky thread at the top of the page when another member tried it out. These rims fit, they do not touch the Brembos at any point, and they will never touch the Brembos as long as they are torqued down properly.

I have yet to see how these winter tires handle the snow, but I will be sure to report on my findings. I have confidence in them from reading other good reviews, the nice softness factor of them and the deep tread. Should be a smooth winter.
Sounds good. I havent been able to track down any cheap 2.4 stock wheels, but Im currently looking into some cheap aftermarket rims by Maxxim that are 17" with a 40mm offset that I think will fit. Ill let you all know what I find out.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Update on winter tires:

WOW!!! These things are amazing in the snow. General Altimax Arctic FTW, I would definitely buy these again. Last night at 11pm I went out for the first time with them in fresh slippery snow. Starting and stopping even on somewhat steep hills was a joke. Absolutely controllable.

I met up with a buddy who has a 2001 Audi S4 (the twin turbo model, not the V8). He currently has all-season tires with about 90% tread left on his car (fairly new rubber) but has the advantage of all wheel drive. We decided to do some fun snow capability testing.

We lined up at a traffic light and tried to do the best start that we could to see who got better traction while accelerating. He got a 1/2 car jump instantly and then I would quickly real him in as I could cut through the snow better. >>NOTE: We were not racing in the snow, we would go to about 40 or 50 KM/H just to see which car was more stable, confident in snow, etc.

The most epic test though was stopping distance. The results blew both our minds. Rolling side by side at 30KM/H and hitting the brakes at the same time. We did this in a wide-lane residential neighborhood with no car on the street at 3:30am. The snow was never driven in yet and very very fresh/slippery. The result was me stopping about 2.5 to 3 car lengths before him! We even switched cars and tried different methods of braking, it didn't matter, still same result. This was from a 30KM/H (18MPH), imagine what would happen from from higher speeds like 50KM/H or even 60KM/H like people are doing on the highway when there is snow.

The results of these tests could be the difference between a safe drive home and a car accident. Don't take chances in bad weather.

Side note: As soon as we were done the tests, my buddy decided it was time for him to price out some winter tires.

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