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damastah 07-15-2012 09:00 PM

SS/TC vs AA Supercharged BMW M3
 
so a friend of mine has a e90 m3 with an active autowerke stage 1 supercharger..

for those of you who have no idea what that means.. its the newer m3. 4door. with the s65 (4.0 v8 motor)

he is making over 400whp

who do you think will win a 40 roll?

09BlueBaltSS 07-15-2012 09:05 PM

M3 wins

Ive raced a stock new M3 and I walked pretty good til ~100 The car you are talking about is making like another 60-hp over stock. Stock turbo doesnt have the top end to fend the M3 off

damastah 07-15-2012 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS (Post 6580601)
M3 wins

Ive raced a stock new M3 and I walked pretty good til ~100 The car you are talking about is making like another 60-hp over stock. Stock turbo doesnt have the top end to fend the M3 off

okay... anyone else think the same ?

Fastgti69 07-15-2012 09:58 PM

He's not going to have any trouble with you. What is his name? Ask if his forum name is Akh23456. I might know him.

m33pm33p 07-15-2012 10:00 PM

You don't have a chance.

Fastgti69 07-15-2012 10:25 PM

By the way, he's making around 500whp on stage 1 AA set up. You will need a big turbo to come close. Goodluck though, will surprised him a little for sure.

damastah 07-15-2012 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by Fastgti69 (Post 6580668)
He's not going to have any trouble with you. What is his name? Ask if his forum name is Akh23456. I might know him.

he is one of my good friends... and no that is not his forum name

damastah 07-16-2012 12:51 AM

oh and btw... i failed to mention in OP..

we have already raced... the winner was surprising

m33pm33p 07-16-2012 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by damastah (Post 6580873)
oh and btw... i failed to mention in OP..

we have already raced... the winner was surprising

driver mod is the only way you will ever win that. Good luck tho.

damastah 07-16-2012 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by m33pm33p (Post 6580883)
driver mod is the only way you will ever win that. Good luck tho.

nope... we were dead even...

40 rolls each time... 40-65 i pulled on him...

got half a car in front... 65 all the way to the top of 4th he didnt crawl forward. and i did not pull on him... his bumper stood at my door the whole time...

5th gear he pulled... lol..

but 2nd gear i pulled... 3rd and 4th was dead even... i mean 2 cars could not be more alike....


we did about 7 or 8 runs. back to back... lol

i brake boosted most of em... and NLSed a couple. with the NLS his front bumper was on my rear bumper...

no driver mod.. he is a really good driver.

my car has has nothing in the trunk.. not even the carpet.. .. i was about 1/8th tank.

and my boost was anywhere from 20~22 psi. according to RPD

i feel like my car is just faster than a lot of cobalts... i raced another LNF buddy of mine.. and he has FBOs like me... not turbo XS tho.. and i got him each time... and he is not trifecta tuned... he actually has a legit HP tune from james..

i saw the way he drives in person... he shifts quicker than i do too.. and he was at 23psi. haha

Nfamous60 07-16-2012 08:56 AM

with a stage 1 turbo kit idk man i highly doubt it, V8 m3 comes 414 from factory, and from ur sig you havent done enough to keep up, get a driver behind the M and try again.

riceburner 07-16-2012 08:58 AM

60k car > 20k car :bye:

jonathan923 07-16-2012 09:15 AM

thats one slow ass m3 then..something is wrong there if those were the real outcomes..just saying.

CudaJoe 07-16-2012 09:17 AM

maybe his friend was screwing around with him? or maybe that M3 is a factory mouse?

Sonicyeller 07-16-2012 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by damastah (Post 6580889)
i feel like my car is just faster than a lot of cobalts... i raced another LNF buddy of mine.. and he has FBOs like me... not turbo XS tho.. and i got him each time... and he is not trifecta tuned... he actually has a legit HP tune from james..

Track times/video or GTFO.

damastah 07-16-2012 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by CudaJoe (Post 6581244)
maybe his friend was screwing around with him? or maybe that M3 is a factory mouse?

not too sure... we were on 2 way radios during the runs... not too sure how he was unable to pass me... one run we did into 5th and he started to pass me..

he knows how to drive a car... every pull we did it seemed to have the same outcome. all third and 4th we were neck and neck...

i really gotta dyno my car... lol

Sonicyeller 07-16-2012 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by damastah (Post 6581469)
not too sure... we were on 2 way radios during the runs... not too sure how he was unable to pass me... one run we did into 5th and he started to pass me..

he knows how to drive a car... every pull we did it seemed to have the same outcome. all third and 4th we were neck and neck...

i really gotta dyno my car... lol

Dyno mubers mean nothing. If you car runs sooooo good and you can drive sooooo good you should be able to post up some legit track times. Jus sayin.

damastah 07-16-2012 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by riceburner (Post 6581222)
60k car > 20k car :bye:

70k for the car.... 15k for the supercharger... lol

85k still unable to beat my 20k car...

damastah 07-16-2012 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Sonicyeller (Post 6581476)
Dyno mubers mean nothing. If you car runs sooooo good and you can drive sooooo good you should be able to post up some legit track times. Jus sayin.

what are you talking about? i ran a 12.9... nothing special... that was last year tho

AARON-SS-TC 07-16-2012 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by damastah (Post 6581479)
what are you talking about? i ran a 12.9... nothing special... that was last year tho

you ran a 12.9 on a 20psi trifecta tune?

thedubsack85 07-16-2012 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by damastah (Post 6581479)
what are you talking about? i ran a 12.9... nothing special... that was last year tho

On what tires? How come no listing in the drag times thread?

Sonicyeller 07-16-2012 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by damastah (Post 6581479)
what are you talking about? i ran a 12.9... nothing special... that was last year tho

ORLY? So it was before you figured out how to go WOT in 2nd gear then? :lol:

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/08-1...d-gear-269288/

;)

drewbroo 07-16-2012 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC (Post 6581680)
you ran a 12.9 on a 20psi trifecta tune?

someone ran a 13.2 on gms1 so its not out of the question

Shanedude 07-16-2012 02:10 PM

Did you put in an LSD since that "How2WotIn2ndGear" Thread?

drewbroo 07-16-2012 02:20 PM

http://cdn.head-fi.org/c/ce/cedb5699_Popcorn.gif

damastah 07-16-2012 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Sonicyeller (Post 6581705)
ORLY? So it was before you figured out how to go WOT in 2nd gear then? :lol:

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/08-1...d-gear-269288/

;)

i was just curious ?
i dont get why you're hating so much?

my first FWD car..

i was just curious on how you guys do it... now i dont worry about it because my tires grip.. so i can go WOT and will chirp around a bit... but grip all day

my stock contis were really bad... ill go wot and needle will pop to redline lol...

damastah 07-16-2012 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Shanedude (Post 6581815)
Did you put in an LSD since that "How2WotIn2ndGear" Thread?

no LSD.. lol.. thinking about quafe.. but found out with stickier tires i dont spin as much

Shanedude 07-16-2012 02:52 PM

Weird I notice little to no difference between my stock conti's vs michelin pilot SS's when it comes to straight line grip(besides the $$ difference). But then again I'm only on GMS1 w/no mods not custom tuned/bolt'd like yourself.

You just need to post-up a good vid or two bro.

damastah 07-16-2012 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Shanedude (Post 6581933)
Weird I notice little to no difference between my stock conti's vs michelin pilot SS's when it comes to straight line grip(besides the $$ difference). But then again I'm only on GMS1 w/no mods not custom tuned/bolt'd like yourself.

You just need to post-up a good vid or two bro.

well... it was only me and him in the car.

m33pm33p 07-16-2012 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by damastah (Post 6580889)
nope... we were dead even...

40 rolls each time... 40-65 i pulled on him...

got half a car in front... 65 all the way to the top of 4th he didnt crawl forward. and i did not pull on him... his bumper stood at my door the whole time...

5th gear he pulled... lol..

but 2nd gear i pulled... 3rd and 4th was dead even... i mean 2 cars could not be more alike....


we did about 7 or 8 runs. back to back... lol

i brake boosted most of em... and NLSed a couple. with the NLS his front bumper was on my rear bumper...

no driver mod.. he is a really good driver.

my car has has nothing in the trunk.. not even the carpet.. .. i was about 1/8th tank.

and my boost was anywhere from 20~22 psi. according to RPD

i feel like my car is just faster than a lot of cobalts... i raced another LNF buddy of mine.. and he has FBOs like me... not turbo XS tho.. and i got him each time... and he is not trifecta tuned... he actually has a legit HP tune from james..

i saw the way he drives in person... he shifts quicker than i do too.. and he was at 23psi. haha

If he was at 23 psi with a blower he would be close to 550-600hp range.. vids or no believe.

thedubsack85 07-16-2012 04:13 PM

So you went 12.9 on street tire's but no slip/vid for proof.... (looks at drag times again) Sorry but i dont think its even close to possible without LSD on a track with good prep and street tires, 60 foot and trap speed?

AARON-SS-TC 07-16-2012 05:25 PM

i know i'm not trying to hate, but this seems like impossible. How did you do against that zl1 you posted about racing a while back? that m3 should be faster than that car, so there is no way.
plus, claiming that you run a 12.9 with a car that only probably has LESS than 300whp and 350wtq, (because its only a 20psi trifecta tune) makes no sense to me, even if you ran with slicks.

Just sayin, zzp and cmiller had a lot more power and barely beat that on street tires, but hey, maybe Jesus picked your car up and threw you down the track half way down...lol

CRR 07-16-2012 06:55 PM

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Hmmmmm...I don't know, but those blown V8 M3's are pretty tough and they mean business...just saying!

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jonathan923 07-16-2012 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by damastah (Post 6581479)
what are you talking about? i ran a 12.9... nothing special... that was last year tho

trap speed?

CRR 07-16-2012 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by jonathan923 (Post 6582376)
trap speed?

I've personally seen a V8 M3 trap ~111-112 mph in the quarter-mile, in stock form, down here in S. Florida. So, with that being said, adding a blower to a V8 M3 should definitely have no problem spanking the OP's ass with the modifications in his signature. Again, I'm just saying...

Fastgti69 07-16-2012 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by m33pm33p (Post 6582038)
If he was at 23 psi with a blower he would be close to 550-600hp range.. vids or no believe.

23 psi on a supercharger? lol Might have misread his post.

The guy with the SC is probably boosting like 6-8lbs.

CRR 07-16-2012 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by m33pm33p (Post 6582038)
If he was at 23 psi with a blower he would be close to 550-600hp range.. vids or no believe.

Re-read the post, brother. OP was stating what his buddy with a SS/TC was running modification/boost wise. He wasn't saying that the M3 owner was running 23 psi.:beer:

Martel18SS 07-16-2012 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Shanedude (Post 6581933)
Weird I notice little to no difference between my stock conti's vs michelin pilot SS's when it comes to straight line grip(besides the $$ difference). But then again I'm only on GMS1 w/no mods not custom tuned/bolt'd like yourself.

You just need to post-up a good vid or two bro.

Wow really? When I went from my Contis to Super Sports on the front it was a huuuuge difference. When I was just GMS1 and K&N SRI with my Contis, second gear would spin no problem. Switched to Super Sports and I couldn't spin them unless I launched hard. Now I'm FBO with a Trifecta 24 psi tune and first and second are constantly on the verge of spinning but not quite, all the way until third. I couldn't imagine the stock Contis with that power. Then again, I have LSD. Do you?

m33pm33p 07-16-2012 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by CRR (Post 6582438)
Re-read the post, brother. OP was stating what his buddy with a SS/TC was running modification/boost wise. He wasn't saying that the M3 owner was running 23 psi.:beer:

made it look like he said 23 psi on a blower. I thought something was wrong but was at work and half busy.

Sorry OP

regardless, no sc M3 is loosing to a tc from a roll. I have a 20psi trifecta tune, and I wouldn't even bother with a stock M3 of that year:lol:

Shanedude 07-16-2012 09:13 PM


07-16-2012 08:15 PM
Martel18SS
Wow really? When I went from my Contis to Super Sports on the front it was a huuuuge difference. When I was just GMS1 and K&N SRI with my Contis, second gear would spin no problem. Switched to Super Sports and I couldn't spin them unless I launched hard. Now I'm FBO with a Trifecta 24 psi tune and first and second are constantly on the verge of spinning but not quite, all the way until third. I couldn't imagine the stock Contis with that power. Then again, I have LSD. Do you?
Yes I have LSD. I have got 40k out of the stock conti's, And I was a more heavy footed then with the new GMS1 upgrade and having a nice new fast vehicle. I am 10k in on the michelin SS's and it all depends on how much I can get out of them vs price. They are wearing well now almost time for a rotation. Could go back to stock since they are on the low $ side while still having good performance. I'm not a drag or tracker the difference ain't huge for me.


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