SS/TC vs AA Supercharged BMW M3
so a friend of mine has a e90 m3 with an active autowerke stage 1 supercharger..
for those of you who have no idea what that means.. its the newer m3. 4door. with the s65 (4.0 v8 motor) he is making over 400whp who do you think will win a 40 roll? |
M3 wins
Ive raced a stock new M3 and I walked pretty good til ~100 The car you are talking about is making like another 60-hp over stock. Stock turbo doesnt have the top end to fend the M3 off |
Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS
(Post 6580601)
M3 wins
Ive raced a stock new M3 and I walked pretty good til ~100 The car you are talking about is making like another 60-hp over stock. Stock turbo doesnt have the top end to fend the M3 off |
He's not going to have any trouble with you. What is his name? Ask if his forum name is Akh23456. I might know him.
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You don't have a chance.
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By the way, he's making around 500whp on stage 1 AA set up. You will need a big turbo to come close. Goodluck though, will surprised him a little for sure.
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Originally Posted by Fastgti69
(Post 6580668)
He's not going to have any trouble with you. What is his name? Ask if his forum name is Akh23456. I might know him.
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oh and btw... i failed to mention in OP..
we have already raced... the winner was surprising |
Originally Posted by damastah
(Post 6580873)
oh and btw... i failed to mention in OP..
we have already raced... the winner was surprising |
Originally Posted by m33pm33p
(Post 6580883)
driver mod is the only way you will ever win that. Good luck tho.
40 rolls each time... 40-65 i pulled on him... got half a car in front... 65 all the way to the top of 4th he didnt crawl forward. and i did not pull on him... his bumper stood at my door the whole time... 5th gear he pulled... lol.. but 2nd gear i pulled... 3rd and 4th was dead even... i mean 2 cars could not be more alike.... we did about 7 or 8 runs. back to back... lol i brake boosted most of em... and NLSed a couple. with the NLS his front bumper was on my rear bumper... no driver mod.. he is a really good driver. my car has has nothing in the trunk.. not even the carpet.. .. i was about 1/8th tank. and my boost was anywhere from 20~22 psi. according to RPD i feel like my car is just faster than a lot of cobalts... i raced another LNF buddy of mine.. and he has FBOs like me... not turbo XS tho.. and i got him each time... and he is not trifecta tuned... he actually has a legit HP tune from james.. i saw the way he drives in person... he shifts quicker than i do too.. and he was at 23psi. haha |
with a stage 1 turbo kit idk man i highly doubt it, V8 m3 comes 414 from factory, and from ur sig you havent done enough to keep up, get a driver behind the M and try again.
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60k car > 20k car :bye:
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thats one slow ass m3 then..something is wrong there if those were the real outcomes..just saying.
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maybe his friend was screwing around with him? or maybe that M3 is a factory mouse?
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Originally Posted by damastah
(Post 6580889)
i feel like my car is just faster than a lot of cobalts... i raced another LNF buddy of mine.. and he has FBOs like me... not turbo XS tho.. and i got him each time... and he is not trifecta tuned... he actually has a legit HP tune from james..
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Originally Posted by CudaJoe
(Post 6581244)
maybe his friend was screwing around with him? or maybe that M3 is a factory mouse?
he knows how to drive a car... every pull we did it seemed to have the same outcome. all third and 4th we were neck and neck... i really gotta dyno my car... lol |
Originally Posted by damastah
(Post 6581469)
not too sure... we were on 2 way radios during the runs... not too sure how he was unable to pass me... one run we did into 5th and he started to pass me..
he knows how to drive a car... every pull we did it seemed to have the same outcome. all third and 4th we were neck and neck... i really gotta dyno my car... lol |
Originally Posted by riceburner
(Post 6581222)
60k car > 20k car :bye:
85k still unable to beat my 20k car... |
Originally Posted by Sonicyeller
(Post 6581476)
Dyno mubers mean nothing. If you car runs sooooo good and you can drive sooooo good you should be able to post up some legit track times. Jus sayin.
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Originally Posted by damastah
(Post 6581479)
what are you talking about? i ran a 12.9... nothing special... that was last year tho
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Originally Posted by damastah
(Post 6581479)
what are you talking about? i ran a 12.9... nothing special... that was last year tho
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Originally Posted by damastah
(Post 6581479)
what are you talking about? i ran a 12.9... nothing special... that was last year tho
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/08-1...d-gear-269288/ ;) |
Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC
(Post 6581680)
you ran a 12.9 on a 20psi trifecta tune?
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Did you put in an LSD since that "How2WotIn2ndGear" Thread?
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Originally Posted by Sonicyeller
(Post 6581705)
ORLY? So it was before you figured out how to go WOT in 2nd gear then? :lol:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/08-1...d-gear-269288/ ;) i dont get why you're hating so much? my first FWD car.. i was just curious on how you guys do it... now i dont worry about it because my tires grip.. so i can go WOT and will chirp around a bit... but grip all day my stock contis were really bad... ill go wot and needle will pop to redline lol... |
Originally Posted by Shanedude
(Post 6581815)
Did you put in an LSD since that "How2WotIn2ndGear" Thread?
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Weird I notice little to no difference between my stock conti's vs michelin pilot SS's when it comes to straight line grip(besides the $$ difference). But then again I'm only on GMS1 w/no mods not custom tuned/bolt'd like yourself.
You just need to post-up a good vid or two bro. |
Originally Posted by Shanedude
(Post 6581933)
Weird I notice little to no difference between my stock conti's vs michelin pilot SS's when it comes to straight line grip(besides the $$ difference). But then again I'm only on GMS1 w/no mods not custom tuned/bolt'd like yourself.
You just need to post-up a good vid or two bro. |
Originally Posted by damastah
(Post 6580889)
nope... we were dead even...
40 rolls each time... 40-65 i pulled on him... got half a car in front... 65 all the way to the top of 4th he didnt crawl forward. and i did not pull on him... his bumper stood at my door the whole time... 5th gear he pulled... lol.. but 2nd gear i pulled... 3rd and 4th was dead even... i mean 2 cars could not be more alike.... we did about 7 or 8 runs. back to back... lol i brake boosted most of em... and NLSed a couple. with the NLS his front bumper was on my rear bumper... no driver mod.. he is a really good driver. my car has has nothing in the trunk.. not even the carpet.. .. i was about 1/8th tank. and my boost was anywhere from 20~22 psi. according to RPD i feel like my car is just faster than a lot of cobalts... i raced another LNF buddy of mine.. and he has FBOs like me... not turbo XS tho.. and i got him each time... and he is not trifecta tuned... he actually has a legit HP tune from james.. i saw the way he drives in person... he shifts quicker than i do too.. and he was at 23psi. haha |
So you went 12.9 on street tire's but no slip/vid for proof.... (looks at drag times again) Sorry but i dont think its even close to possible without LSD on a track with good prep and street tires, 60 foot and trap speed?
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i know i'm not trying to hate, but this seems like impossible. How did you do against that zl1 you posted about racing a while back? that m3 should be faster than that car, so there is no way.
plus, claiming that you run a 12.9 with a car that only probably has LESS than 300whp and 350wtq, (because its only a 20psi trifecta tune) makes no sense to me, even if you ran with slicks. Just sayin, zzp and cmiller had a lot more power and barely beat that on street tires, but hey, maybe Jesus picked your car up and threw you down the track half way down...lol |
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Hmmmmm...I don't know, but those blown V8 M3's are pretty tough and they mean business...just saying!
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Originally Posted by damastah
(Post 6581479)
what are you talking about? i ran a 12.9... nothing special... that was last year tho
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
(Post 6582376)
trap speed?
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Originally Posted by m33pm33p
(Post 6582038)
If he was at 23 psi with a blower he would be close to 550-600hp range.. vids or no believe.
The guy with the SC is probably boosting like 6-8lbs. |
Originally Posted by m33pm33p
(Post 6582038)
If he was at 23 psi with a blower he would be close to 550-600hp range.. vids or no believe.
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Originally Posted by Shanedude
(Post 6581933)
Weird I notice little to no difference between my stock conti's vs michelin pilot SS's when it comes to straight line grip(besides the $$ difference). But then again I'm only on GMS1 w/no mods not custom tuned/bolt'd like yourself.
You just need to post-up a good vid or two bro. |
Originally Posted by CRR
(Post 6582438)
Re-read the post, brother. OP was stating what his buddy with a SS/TC was running modification/boost wise. He wasn't saying that the M3 owner was running 23 psi.:beer:
Sorry OP regardless, no sc M3 is loosing to a tc from a roll. I have a 20psi trifecta tune, and I wouldn't even bother with a stock M3 of that year:lol: |
07-16-2012 08:15 PM Martel18SS Wow really? When I went from my Contis to Super Sports on the front it was a huuuuge difference. When I was just GMS1 and K&N SRI with my Contis, second gear would spin no problem. Switched to Super Sports and I couldn't spin them unless I launched hard. Now I'm FBO with a Trifecta 24 psi tune and first and second are constantly on the verge of spinning but not quite, all the way until third. I couldn't imagine the stock Contis with that power. Then again, I have LSD. Do you? |
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