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Old 06-19-2008, 06:15 PM
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hp tuners just repsonded to me after i sent them the data from our cobalt. it looks like they should be able to support the cobalt ss/tc with their next update due out soon. this will open up many doors for this market.
Hopefully they will crack everything ....they support the Cobalt SS/SC pcm too
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:40 PM
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We finally got a chance to get working on some parts for the ss/tc. Here are a couple pics of our powdercoated aluminum charge piping.



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Old 06-22-2008, 10:42 PM
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You guys are the ****. Good work! : I gotta stop down sometime to check this thing out.
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:51 PM
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definately feel free to stop down, well show you around the cobalt and the shop too.
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definately feel free to stop down, well show you around the cobalt and the shop too.
Good, I need someone to distract you while I sneak in an steal the SS/T ...
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:17 PM
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charge piping looks nice
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Looking good
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now has the piping from the intercooler to the intake manifold been done as well? sign me up for your intercooler piping kit!!!
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Old 06-23-2008, 07:33 AM
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now has the piping from the intercooler to the intake manifold been done as well? sign me up for your intercooler piping kit!!!

x2! *but in red or polished
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wow that stuff looks good. and the unlocking of the pcm is looking promising. might have to try and find one of these lnf boys.
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by boostking
now has the piping from the intercooler to the intake manifold been done as well? sign me up for your intercooler piping kit!!!
They are still in the R&D stages. They just got the car like a week ago, give them some time to develop the parts.
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:12 AM
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It's all done. We have a cnc'd plate to hold the oem intake air temp sensor. Includes all couplers and clamps necessary to work with the oem intercooler, throttle body and turbo. It also will work with our upgraded 600hp garrett core intercooler we will have available very shortly.

We are going to offer red and black powdercoating for the charge piping. As an introductory cobaltss.net special we will be selling these for $549 shipped.









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Old 06-23-2008, 10:20 AM
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looks really good synapse, any ss/tc owner should be jumping on this. Excellent work!
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That is purdy.
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hmmm. why do i sense an increase in lag from the piping kit. never the less at least someone is doing something with the car
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that looks so much better
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Awesome guys!
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need dyno results!
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hmmm. why do i sense an increase in lag from the piping kit. never the less at least someone is doing something with the car
lol, let the dyno results show. I'm curious as well.
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:25 PM
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As long as there is no added length to the pipe there wont be added lag (or shouldnt be).
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RageTechnologies
As long as there is no added length to the pipe there wont be added lag (or shouldnt be).
you meant to say volume, which I think they managed to increase a decent amount with the near constant diameter piping
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by krispy
you meant to say volume, which I think they managed to increase a decent amount with the near constant diameter piping
its goes hand and hand, does it not? more link/more size=more volume.

The slight fraction in the increased diameter is not going to effect spool time. 15-25rpm if even that. You wont feel a difference on the butt dyno nor will you be able to tell on the dyno graph (unless you blow it up really big). If anything, i see it helping. i could be wrong though, every car is different....
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that is has more to do with volumetric flow. But I'm just guessing off of some Thermodynamics classwork. Don't really know till you test in the real world. Let's see those comparo's Synapse!
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its goes hand and hand, does it not? more link=more volume.
No, volume does not equal length. Volume is a measure of a 3 dimensional space while length is the distance between 2 points.
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Originally Posted by krispy
No, volume does not equal length. Volume is a measure of a 3 dimensional space while length is the distance between 2 points.
Ok i dont want to get in a technical bitching match in anyone's thread. Dont get excited. You are just misunderstanding me.

If you have more length, of a pipe, the volume is going to increase.

More length of a 3 dimensional object=more volume.

Yes length AND volume are two different things, but if you increase one (weather it be volume or length) the other must/does increase as well. So yes they go hand and hand.
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