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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 01:32 AM
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Why can't people believe an ss/tc runs 13.5 stock?

It has been beaten to death but the SRT guys can't believe I ran a 13.5 stock. Some MS3 heads have called BS on my youtube vid also. I guess people cannot accept the fact that Chevy makes a quick 4 cylinder.

*edit - fail at posting an srtforum thread *

Too be honest with the stage kit getting pushed back I wouldn't be suprised with myself or Marin hitting a 13.4 this year. The 104 trap speed shows the car can move...it's just getting it off the line is what matters.


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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 02:14 AM
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Exactly...the trap speed tells all...basically that shows your power to weight ratio.....and any intelligent drag racer should realize that 104 mph in the 1/4 is solidly in the mid 13's....possibly low 13's with some traction.

Being a Mustang fanatic as well, I have seen numerous stock 07 and 08 GT's run 13.5's and 13.6's at a slower 102 mph with just some sticky tires. The RWD is what gets them those lower ET's when compared to our SS/TC's.

With the trap speeds we have, I think the theorectical limit of how fast a stock SS/TC could go with perfect traction is around 13.2 - 13.3.

What kills our cars in times is the lack of traction due to the FWD and a not very effective launch control for the track. When our cars actually hook up though, we can put down some decent times.

Sounds like the SRT guys are being pretty dumb in that critique of our cars.
Old Feb 27, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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There in denial thats all lol
Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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i had a buddy who went 12.9's at 103 and change with a 90 mustang gt

so the 104 we can get stock is def enough for mid to low 13's with a great launch and good tires
Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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I wouldnt worry about it, just keep shitting on them at the track, they can't deny what they see
Old Feb 27, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Jealousy is all it is...Though both of those cars sound way better. But the trap speed and ET are bang on for a good launching FWD car...Kind of off topic but at the local track around here there is late 90s eclipse GST (FWD) that traps at a little over 116 but runs mid to high 15s..it has a VERY large turbo and it's funny as hell to watch because once this thing gets traction it hauls ASS.
Old Feb 27, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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They are denying it because only two people have done it, and there are a shiatload of 14.3-15.0's out there.

In my 97 Cobra, the best time I have ever gotten was a 13.47@103.5 with a 2.0 60ft.

I havent been to the drag strip in a couple of years because I got bored of taking the Cobra there, but I deffinately am going to go for a couple of times this season just to see if I can get a mid 13 stock out of this thing.

MARIN, when are you planning your first trip of the year? I will come with.

and on edit: After this summer, there wont be any doubts anymore once more and more people start turning in those times.
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Originally Posted by agent007kimball
Exactly...the trap speed tells all...basically that shows your power to weight ratio.....and any intelligent drag racer should realize that 104 mph in the 1/4 is solidly in the mid 13's....possibly low 13's with some traction.

Being a Mustang fanatic as well, I have seen numerous stock 07 and 08 GT's run 13.5's and 13.6's at a slower 102 mph with just some sticky tires. The RWD is what gets them those lower ET's when compared to our SS/TC's.

With the trap speeds we have, I think the theorectical limit of how fast a stock SS/TC could go with perfect traction is around 13.2 - 13.3.

What kills our cars in times is the lack of traction due to the FWD and a not very effective launch control for the track. When our cars actually hook up though, we can put down some decent times.

Sounds like the SRT guys are being pretty dumb in that critique of our cars.
Personally I don't agree with a bone stock the way it comes from factory SS/TC running a 13.2 IMO, I could see a SS/TC running a 13.35-13.4 under a perfect launch, perfect track prep, perfect weather, and perfect driving. Hell, bone stock I was able to trap 100mph in my SS/SC and the SS/TC defiantly has more ***** stock for stock.

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I wouldnt worry about it, just keep shitting on them at the track, they can't deny what they see

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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by agent007kimball
Exactly...the trap speed tells all...basically that shows your power to weight ratio.....and any intelligent drag racer should realize that 104 mph in the 1/4 is solidly in the mid 13's....possibly low 13's with some traction.
I trapped 106mph with a 2.9 pulley and 42# injectors on a Stage II tune. I ran a 13.9 with a 2.2 60'

On a better prepped track I might have done 13.7
Old Feb 27, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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most people dont wanna admit that chevy finally made a sport compact car thats actually quick. Like Rodimus said, keep going to the track and keep pulling those times, and then they cant deny it. ( although most likely theyll say your lying about being stock)
Old Feb 27, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DebadgedBALT77
most people dont wanna admit that chevy finally made a sport compact car thats actually quick. Like Rodimus said, keep going to the track and keep pulling those times, and then they cant deny it. ( although most likely theyll say your lying about being stock)
If the fastest stock SRT-4 neons were in the high 13s and the TC will definately beat a stock SRT-4 than why the arguement?
Old Feb 27, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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Because cobalts arent fast. Everyone knows that.
Old Feb 27, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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They don't believe it cause people like me only ran a 14.7. I didn't prep the car whatso ever though, 30-33psi in the tires and track prep was almost non existent.
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Originally Posted by Rodimus_Prime
I love that reputation
well its one thats gonna probably stick around for a little while longer. So have plenty of time left to enjoy
Old Feb 27, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrage06
I trapped 106mph with a 2.9 pulley and 42# injectors on a Stage II tune. I ran a 13.9 with a 2.2 60'

On a better prepped track I might have done 13.7

With a 106 trap speed you should be in the low 13's....as I mentioned before the FWD kills our cars off the line though....that 2.2 sec 60' time shows that....put some drag radials or run seriously low tire pressure on that car and it should be much improved

Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
Personally I don't agree with a bone stock the way it comes from factory SS/TC running a 13.2 IMO, I could see a SS/TC running a 13.35-13.4 under a perfect launch, perfect track prep, perfect weather, and perfect driving. Hell, bone stock I was able to trap 100mph in my SS/SC and the SS/TC defiantly has more ***** stock for stock.





With the stock tires, no way in hell is it going to put down those times. Put some drag radials or (if somebody is enough of a hero to try it) slicks, the weight of our cars, the gearing and the hp is enough to get into the 13.2-13.3 range with a seriously brutal launch.

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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 02:03 AM
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its the same reason the evo boys dont believe that the cobalt kept up with the"ultimighty MR" hmmmm a 46000 dollar mr almost got beaten down by a 25000 cobalt..... evo has more power and gets worse gas mileage to....
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Originally Posted by Boosted_Cobalt09
its the same reason the evo boys dont believe that the cobalt kept up with the"ultimighty MR" hmmmm a 46000 dollar mr almost got beaten down by a 25000 cobalt..... evo has more power and gets worse gas mileage to....
From a roll the TC will pass by the EVO by 100 than just keep on pulling. With a normal launch an EVO is nothing special.

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I love that reputation
Me too. The look on people's faces when I take off on them is priceless. You should have seen the look on the C5 vette driver's face when I ate him on he hwy.

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If the fastest stock SRT-4 neons were in the high 13s and the TC will definately beat a stock SRT-4 than why the arguement?
A lot ran mid 13s.
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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looks like we have the makings of a fun summer
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by euthanasia
A lot ran mid 13s.
I dont really check that often the last time I looked the fastest stock time was 13.8 or so. I have seen a few videos of a stock TC taking a stock or stage 1 SRT4.
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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looks like we have the makings of a fun summer
yup because thats when i get my ss/tc!!!!!




i ******* can wait.
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
I dont really check that often the last time I looked the fastest stock time was 13.8 or so. I have seen a few videos of a stock TC taking a stock or stage 1 SRT4.
stage 1= stock
Fastest stock time for an SRT-4 is 13.6
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Originally Posted by euthanasia
stage 1= stock
Fastest stock time for an SRT-4 is 13.6
Must be a damn good driver. most SRT4 seem to make about 215 whp stock and they weigh the same as the cobalts. Stage 1 is a tune if I am not mistaken, takes them from 15 psi to 19. Stage two is injectors which makes them run too rich from what I heard. My brother's friend had a stage 1 SRT4 that ran 12.9 somehow. He is a really good driver he got a 1.9 60 ft time with stock tires.
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Must be a damn good driver. most SRT4 seem to make about 215 whp stock and they weigh the same as the cobalts. Stage 1 is a tune if I am not mistaken, takes them from 15 psi to 19. Stage two is injectors which makes them run too rich from what I heard. My brother's friend had a stage 1 SRT4 that ran 12.9 somehow. He is a really good driver he got a 1.9 60 ft time with stock tires.
No, most dyno 230whp or more.



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