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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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misfire on every cylinder eh?

you must have done something real stupid for that one.
Not really

Its had a problem before where it misfired all cylinders and threw a bunch of other codes just cruising on the freeway
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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i want ur trunk if u get rid of the balt or get another.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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David, where you running 109? i thought you had pump gas in...

the different octane won't make a difference in the injectors themselves. You weren't tuned to 109, so it really won't make the car different, except it won't pull timing as much because it would resist detonation better.

unless the car is that reactive, which i doubt, it would run off its previous curves and reactions for 91. maybe if you ran a tank or 2 or 109, it might start adapting to that level of octane. but i doubt it.
I am surprised he ONLY run 109 octane, everyone knows more octane = more magic dust = faster car. NASA use >9000 octane in their rockets and they went to the moon. THE EFFING MOON!
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
David, where you running 109? i thought you had pump gas in...

the different octane won't make a difference in the injectors themselves. You weren't tuned to 109, so it really won't make the car different, except it won't pull timing as much because it would resist detonation better.

unless the car is that reactive, which i doubt, it would run off its previous curves and reactions for 91. maybe if you ran a tank or 2 or 109, it might start adapting to that level of octane. but i doubt it.
It will only run the highest timing it was programmed for, it won't turn itself up.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
It will only run the highest timing it was programmed for, it won't turn itself up.
Nope. If you are running 109 octane The stock timing or slightly over stock timing will not make anymore power on 109 octane than 93 octane. If you are running a ton more timing than stock it will make a difference.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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Reason #32,898 for the GM bankruptcy...

Sometimes I wish people were a bit more ethical in this world...
Im sure if you had that opportunity you would take it in a heartbeat..
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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Its always nice to know people who work at dealerships. Hope it works out Im waiting to see what went down.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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all i can say is good luck lol
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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Im sure if you had that opportunity you would take it in a heartbeat..
I wouldn't have broken my car to begin with...
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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he didn't break it on purpose. **** happens.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
he didn't break it on purpose. **** happens.
X2. He did not break it on purpose.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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X2. He did not break it on purpose.
X3. I did not break I on purpose
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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X3. I did not break I on purpose
However...you did mod the crap out of it and put 109 octane fuel in it...

That is what I meant...I'm not stupid enough to do that many things that could blow up my car...
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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just because he modified it doesn't mean he is stupid.

You making that comment makes YOU ignorant.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
just because he modified it doesn't mean he is stupid.

You making the comment makes YOU stupid.
Well doing all of those modifications, putting 109 octane fuel in it, and then wondering what happened is pretty stupid...
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Well doing all of those modifications, putting 109 octane fuel in it, and then wondering what happened is pretty stupid...
what is so wrong about him putting 109 in it? he didnt put leaded in, he put a higher octane fuel in to take advantage of it via some tuning. there is nothing retarded about that. if you have a problem with him racing his car or modifying it and taking it in for warranty work (which may actually be warranted in this case, cant say for sure) then you need to take your car back to the dealer. GM didnt sell a turbo car with amazing suspension among other things for people to drive to the grocery store. its meant to be beat on, and the owners should be covered to an extent.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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That's why I was asking if 109 octane was harmful to the engine so I won't do it again
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TrevMo
Well doing all of those modifications, putting 109 octane fuel in it, and then wondering what happened is pretty stupid...
not at all, the mods he has would not cause the issue that probably is at the root cause. Intercooler piping and higher octane fuel don't cause over-rev. A missed shift does. until we know what's wrong with the car, you can't possibly blame any of the modifications to his car.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by HB_SS/TC
That's why I was asking if 109 octane was harmful to the engine so I won't do it again
you can keep putting it in there david, the octane fuel had no bearing on what happened to your car as far as we know, and i don't see any possible way it could have.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by HB_SS/TC
That's why I was asking if 109 octane was harmful to the engine so I won't do it again
the ONLY thing i could see you having an issue with is if you put in leaded. i do not know how the DI would matter with that, but i have run leaded race fuel through mine several times. generally will just shorten O2 sensor life (obviously dont run it with a cat though)
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
what is so wrong about him putting 109 in it? he didnt put leaded in, he put a higher octane fuel in to take advantage of it via some tuning. there is nothing retarded about that. if you have a problem with him racing his car or modifying it and taking it in for warranty work (which may actually be warranted in this case, cant say for sure) then you need to take your car back to the dealer. GM didnt sell a turbo car with amazing suspension among other things for people to drive to the grocery store. its meant to be beat on, and the owners should be covered to an extent.
well said stuart, my dear sir.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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109 is acually better burns slower hense more stable airfuel ratios and usly lower airfuel ratios it prevents detentaion and keeps cylinder temps lower i run 109 everytime i go to the track just for a little extra assurance i wont get pre igniton i think u prolly floated ur valves and possible droped a couple what sound does it make when u crank it over
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
what is so wrong about him putting 109 in it? he didnt put leaded in, he put a higher octane fuel in to take advantage of it via some tuning. there is nothing retarded about that. if you have a problem with him racing his car or modifying it and taking it in for warranty work (which may actually be warranted in this case, cant say for sure) then you need to take your car back to the dealer. GM didnt sell a turbo car with amazing suspension among other things for people to drive to the grocery store. its meant to be beat on, and the owners should be covered to an extent.
Well I sure hope it isn't covered under warranty...all those mods and trying to NLS from 3-4 at the track? I don't understand why anyone that takes their car to the track expects their mistakes to be covered...

And isn't the NLS only for 1-2 and 2-3 shifts? And...I've never been to the track, but from what I have observed, shouldn't you not be shifting into 4th anyway?
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TrevMo
However...you did mod the crap out of it and put 109 octane fuel in it...

That is what I meant...I'm not stupid enough to do that many things that could blow up my car...
The fuel did not blow it up that is for sure. 109 octane has a much higher flash point so no detonation.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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ur gonna hit 4th if ur making any serious times aka over 100 mph trap speeds id hope ud hit 4th
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