listen listen dont quote me! i mean seeing numbers as high as 380tq and stuff makes me think it may be able to get done. But none the less a turbo upgrade would be pretty sweet

 

i bet you'll see 380+whp on a stock turbo in the upcomming year...just a hint tho


the problem wont be internals it will be the clutch..which steddy proved to us their are options (good options) of upgrading

 

torque =/= HP. The same amount of airflow it takes to make 100hp can make 500tq

 

didn't zzp hit 400 whp?? i thought i remember seeing a thread about it

 

of course torque is that high, stock turbo is tiny and gets into boost like nothing. max torque at like 3000rpm

not on stock turbo

 

If you're not retarded, the clutch shouldn't have to be replaced though.

I had zero slip problems with the stocker, unless I did something really stupid, like was in too high of a gear and rolled onto the throttle way too hard.

You might be able to get to 360ish whp with a lot of meth and an agressive tune.

It isn't a matter of restriction at that point, it is a matter of a pump, not able to pump any more air.

 

Oh lol ic i didn't read it just the title so i didn't know forsure

 

i agree, once a 3 bar sensor is out i think it will be better.

what i was commenting on was the clutch at 380 whp+..because our torque would be threw the roof..

i think a certian tunner is/has worked on a 380 whp + tune but it doesnt work because is said clutch wont hold.

i cant say names tho

 

The answer to the riddle of making more power isn't turning up the boost anymore.

Everyone acts like 25 lbs of boost is gonna make more power than 22

and magically going to make 30 more than what most people are making tuned.

 

you know what,i think it will be that simple

however..i dont think you will see a 400 whp cobalt on stock turbo.

without power adders like meth/nitrious

 

Look at a compressor map of the turbo.

All the answers lie there.

Now, some meth I think will get us there.

 

i dont think anyone yet has tuned the meth properly in these cars yet...id love to see what some really good tuners (cough bryan cough) could due

 

20 more whp on top mainly.

The thing is, meth lets you run more timing.

After a certain point you stop making power.

 

mmm i see

**** it ill be running 12's on my EG hatch for under 2,000 bucks (including car) in a month

 

^^^^lmao....... no but i know of someone that is doing a 28 or 30psi tune for like 380whp... its siiick, but the clutch wont handel it... also where can i find wat ZZP did.... i want to hit the 380-400whp...

 

correct me if im wrong but didnt zzp twincharge to get their 400whp??? its on youtube search it.

 

no

 

thats on the LSJ motor... not the LNF...

 

You can make 400 wtrq at 30 psi on the stock turbo but 340 whp is the absolute max I can see the stock turbo making at this point in time.

It will just make more torque but the turbo runs out of efficiency faster so max HP will be acheived sooner but powerband will be much shorter and very brutal.

 

That sucks. I hope he is doing better now.

 

im gonna spray the **** out of my car lol with a nice tune for nitrous...i wanna hopefully hit over 375whp on stock turbo...havent decided if i wanna run meth on top of the n2o, we shall see next year

 

I know I'm way late to the party but now that a few years passed i think people seen that the stock turbo can put you over 400 I do believe zzp ran 11 seconds on a stock turbo.

 

You won't get 400whp out of a stock turbo unless you possibly run nitrous and then it's a time bomb. Check out the Dyno thread and see what's been done in the past.
I think some have gotten close to 360 on e but that's about the top end. Everyone dynos on a chassis Dyno not motor Dyno.

 

snobalt / thread

 

lol. people answering old threads like I do sometimes