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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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5th injector VS. meth injection?

Was just looking at the 5th injector setup from ZZP. Would'nt that provide the same benefits as meth injection while providing extra fuel as well? One might argue the meth/water would provide a greater cooling effect, but I would think that would be marginal. My thoughts are an 11 gallon tank that I dont really need to keep an eye on and a much more reliable delivery method ( Tuned for all this, of course ). Am I wrong in my thinking?
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 12:58 AM
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Was just looking at the 5th injector setup from ZZP. Would'nt that provide the same benefits as meth injection while providing extra fuel as well? One might argue the meth/water would provide a greater cooling effect, but I would think that would be marginal. My thoughts are an 11 gallon tank that I dont really need to keep an eye on and a much more reliable delivery method ( Tuned for all this, of course ). Am I wrong in my thinking?
The point of the 5th injector is to allow more fuel to be able to run full E85. E85 is better than meth and pump gas.
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 01:13 AM
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Not in my case, the nearest E85 station is 60+ miles away. I understand its intent is for the E85 mills, I was just speculating boost cooling may be a possibly beneficial side effect if used with regular gas.
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 12:14 AM
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Not in my case, the nearest E85 station is 60+ miles away. I understand its intent is for the E85 mills, I was just speculating boost cooling may be a possibly beneficial side effect if used with regular gas.
No, no point in it if you are going to be running cams. IIRC the cams alone can support over 550whp closer to 600 on 93 pump gas. You'd just be wasting money. Plus I doubt you'll ever put a large enough turbo to make over that on pump and meth. At most 550 and thats on a 6262 which isn't practical at all as a street turbo on the lnf.
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 12:22 AM
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Im running e47 with meth injection. I run e47 because I still get good mpgs and I do a bit driving
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 01:24 AM
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Hey Ace, how good is you're MPG's? I wish I had E near where I live. Hate it in the regular fuel, but if I could use it as a performance enhancer all the better. I get 30-32 almost dead on consistent with 50/50 hwy/city driving. I recently saw that drop to 28, I'm very certain due to "winter blend" fuel at the pumps about now I'm sure. I saw the same thing last year and thought something was wrong but come spring time it went back up again. Didnt seem like the temp/snow changed things as much as the fuel itself.

On a side note I drive the same 90% of the time. I recently tried out a tank of 89 octane with no ethanol. I know the octane is low, but I didnt think one tank would hurt if I didnt lean on it. Especially with 1/4 tank of 93 left in it. Well, keeping in mind my previous mentioned 30-32 MPG, I saw 35.2. Thats huge. Wish they would keep the E out of regular fuel, just imagine the change in supply/demand and resulting price drop if 75%+ of the gas burning cars on the road got 10% more fuel efficiant overnight. Something to ponder.
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Hey Ace, how good is you're MPG's? I wish I had E near where I live. Hate it in the regular fuel, but if I could use it as a performance enhancer all the better. I get 30-32 almost dead on consistent with 50/50 hwy/city driving. I recently saw that drop to 28, I'm very certain due to "winter blend" fuel at the pumps about now I'm sure. I saw the same thing last year and thought something was wrong but come spring time it went back up again. Didnt seem like the temp/snow changed things as much as the fuel itself.

On a side note I drive the same 90% of the time. I recently tried out a tank of 89 octane with no ethanol. I know the octane is low, but I didnt think one tank would hurt if I didnt lean on it. Especially with 1/4 tank of 93 left in it. Well, keeping in mind my previous mentioned 30-32 MPG, I saw 35.2. Thats huge. Wish they would keep the E out of regular fuel, just imagine the change in supply/demand and resulting price drop if 75%+ of the gas burning cars on the road got 10% more fuel efficiant overnight. Something to ponder.
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