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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Iam Broke
Very limited ability to do so, at least on the Original tune, the Extra Crispy may be different. I didn't have that one to try.

On the original tune from Vince I could save the file but not open it in HPT after a read entire.

It would log a few basic parameters but I didn't know how to configure it back then. It might do more with the proper config file.

He uses his own op sys that HPT couldn't recognize well.
hptuners can log the car.. but you cant make edits on it, however soon enough it wont matter
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by slowbalt84
not running or hiding anywhere. I told you all where it was at and im not going through hundreds of page again.
actually you are hiding. Bry tuned my LSJ hundreds of times without any issues... and helped with my LNF once again not a single issue to report!
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badBlueberrySC
actually you are hiding. Bry tuned my LSJ hundreds of times without any issues... and helped with my LNF once again not a single issue to report!
uhh ok...... do you want a cookie or something? I could give a crap if kobe bryant tuned your car. you guys are blowing this way out of proportion. i simply brought up something that happened in the past which he even admitted to if you dumbasses were paying attention. So I don't understand why everyone is trying to be a tough guy on the internet. lol why don't you drive to warrenton, mo and try being a tough guy otherwise stfu
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 11:04 PM
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Well if i would have known you when I was in Missouri i would! because you wanna be a wuss and not stand up... you will get fucked with PERIOD!

Sooo sit back... shut up.. and don't speak if you get soo offended
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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haha omg i am rolling on the floor. ok dude. don't forget your purse on the way out






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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by slowbalt84
i simply brought up something that happened in the past which he even admitted to if you dumbasses were paying attention.
Yes in the past ...... before you joined last month lol..... so, get hit with the ban stick and cant stay away?

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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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The choke is gone when you remove that stupid silicone elbow. Damn thing is vibrating and collapsing a bit and causing too much damn suction head I believe. Car runs so much smoother and better with the stock intake elbow on there. I might run the AEM intake with the stock intake tube that connects to the turbo but my logs have me at 34.2 lbs/min MAF and 0.0 LTFT and 0.0 STFT on the stock airbox with the K&N in there so I dont know how much of a benefit it will be.
i've got a piece of the tubing from back in the devel days, you'd be ****-shocked as to what it is.

as you can see, with most the intakes, they come with that massive silicone disaster, thats NG. however, what its really showing is the fact that your inlet side(filter) is causing to much of a pressure drop from its restriction.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by slowbalt84
not running or hiding anywhere. I told you all where it was at and im not going through hundreds of page again.
fzn14 is the one who had the problem. you don't know the back story behind it all. all you have is hearsay from others.

if you're in the mood to start ****. you started it. this falls upon you. not me, not anyone else. you searched once. you can do it again. or you can keep fabricating more lies.

every single person at that get together knows how to get a hold of me. it falls upon them if they keep quiet about the situation with their own vehicle.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
fzn14 is the one who had the problem. you don't know the back story behind it all. all you have is hearsay from others.

if you're in the mood to start ****. you started it. this falls upon you. not me, not anyone else. you searched once. you can do it again. or you can keep fabricating more lies.

every single person at that get together knows how to get a hold of me. it falls upon them if they keep quiet about the situation with their own vehicle.
I have to say Bryan is a great tuner look at the hp hes making without problems.
You will always have a bad tune once in while doesnt mean you cant fix it.
I am sure Bryam would have or did fix it.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by slowbalt84
not running or hiding anywhere. I told you all where it was at and im not going through hundreds of page again.
I will paypal your tool ass $5 if you can find factual info about "all the complaints" from "quite a bit of people".
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by slowbalt84
not running or hiding anywhere. I told you all where it was at and im not going through hundreds of page again.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 05:01 AM
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 06black
i've got a piece of the tubing from back in the devel days, you'd be ****-shocked as to what it is.

as you can see, with most the intakes, they come with that massive silicone disaster, thats NG. however, what its really showing is the fact that your inlet side(filter) is causing to much of a pressure drop from its restriction.
See that is what I dont really understand. The AEM filter is larger than all the other filters that come on the other intakes out there. It is 7" long 5" across and has a 3.25" opening. It shoud not create very much restriction but I guess it is enough to cause an issue with that massive silicone elbow.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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The issue is from the low pressure area created at the turbo inlet causing the tube to collapse. Same thing happens during pump cavitation on the inlet side of a centrifugal pump. If the pressure gets too low on the inlet, the fluid vaporizes and the pump cavitates. In this case the tube is weak enough that it collapses.

This low pressure area is what draws the air in the intake filter.

The turbo sux!
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Iam Broke
The issue is from the low pressure area created at the turbo inlet causing the tube to collapse. Same thing happens during pump cavitation on the inlet side of a centrifugal pump. If the pressure gets too low on the inlet, the fluid vaporizes and the pump cavitates. In this case the tube is weak enough that it collapses.

This low pressure area is what draws the air in the intake filter.

The turbo sux!
That is what I thought too. I deal with pump systems for a living and know all too well about the effects of too much suction and too much suction head. They need a more rigid and me thinks slightly larger tube especially near the 90* bend at least until the turbo inlet where it has to neck down.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Sorry 'bout preaching to the choir then. Too many years in industry myself.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
See that is what I dont really understand. The AEM filter is larger than all the other filters that come on the other intakes out there. It is 7" long 5" across and has a 3.25" opening. It shoud not create very much restriction but I guess it is enough to cause an issue with that massive silicone elbow.
check the flow of the filter, size means dick if the element is junk.

i'd have to see if AEM posts data, but K&N for example has a flow rate per material surface area for there element. kinda nice. its biased for them, but there are tons of 3rd party tests on K&N to validate there numbers.

if there's enough vacuum on the inlet side to collapse a piece of 3ply, reinforced silicone, then there's enough to not only rob power, but kill turbo seals.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Iam Broke
Sorry 'bout preaching to the choir then. Too many years in industry myself.
Not really preaching just reinforcing my idea.

Originally Posted by 06black
check the flow of the filter, size means dick if the element is junk.

i'd have to see if AEM posts data, but K&N for example has a flow rate per material surface area for there element. kinda nice. its biased for them, but there are tons of 3rd party tests on K&N to validate there numbers.

if there's enough vacuum on the inlet side to collapse a piece of 3ply, reinforced silicone, then there's enough to not only rob power, but kill turbo seals.
So in theory, if I yank the filter off (not for long of course) that will show if the inlet restriction issue is caused by the filter or the silicone hose itself. It necks down a ton right at a 90* bend.

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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Not really preaching just reinforcing my idea.



So in theory, if I yank the filter off (not for long of course) that will show if the inlet restriction issue is caused by the filter or the silicone hose itself. It necks down a ton right at a 90* bend.
spot on!
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 06black
spot on!
Now, here is the trouble. If I need a different type of filter there are very few companies who make 3.25" inlet sizes. Most companies go strait from 3.0" to 3.5".
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Now, here is the trouble. If I need a different type of filter there are very few companies who make 3.25" inlet sizes. Most companies go strait from 3.0" to 3.5".
what i've done in the past is order a custom unit from the likes of K&N and such.

take there filter flow rate per surface area unit, add in a 20% headway and then work the shape (top/bottom flange size, inlet offset, ect) to fit your area.

you can also experiment with other filter mediums as well. HKS foam, ect, ect.

another option, and how i would do it, is to replace that ****-show of an elbow with some vacuum sportive ducting and graft the OE bits on.

from experience, this works.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/205/=4fh3gx

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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
what i've done in the past is order a custom unit from the likes of K&N and such.

take there filter flow rate per surface area unit, add in a 20% headway and then work the shape (top/bottom flange size, inlet offset, ect) to fit your area.

you can also experiment with other filter mediums as well. HKS foam, ect, ect.

another option, and how i would do it, is to replace that ****-show of an elbow with some vacuum sportive ducting and graft the OE bits on.

from experience, this works.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/205/=4fh3gx

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Cool thanks. You sir have a PM.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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hook me up too! im so desperate for a tune
meee tooo Paul what part of NY you live im from the bronx maybe next time i go to vist you can hook me up im willing to pay as well
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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ohhh i want 363 HP lol
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Wow this thread blew up! Damn sucks STL has one of the best LNF tuners and nobody will get to see his tunes cause he wont become a vendor on here cause of all the drama and he hardly ever posts, one of the most modest guys i know and probably the nicest and would love to help this community out, but there is too much drama here, the numbers he made uncorrected were as high as corrected numbers from most of the vendors on here and other tuners, this was only on 22psi, and was done at a very well known shop in the viper community PBJ. He is one of the best Cavy tuners in the united states. . I dont know why some of you all rag on Brian, the guy can tune some nasty LSJ's.....Seen it first hand, lost to him first hand, and my LSJ was no slouch, if he owned an LNF i bet he would get alot more involved in them. I think he is a good tuner....No matter who tunes the LNF from this site, every guy pretty much is good at what they do.
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