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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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I have been running an atmospheric BOV for about a year and 7 months (when i bought the car) and trust me it doesn't do anything bad. I have 40,000 miles to prove it. And i also watch my Aeroforce gauge extensively.
tuned or no tune?
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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It does the exact samething. It isnt a tune feature, its a VCM feature. We all have it
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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damn, makes me want to get a atmospheric bov, but wait I could get a flange welded on my Injen CP, I know someone who did that it was the one on youtube having compressor surge issue with HKS.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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I think that was due to a defective HKS
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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So tune not needed? Sweet! Now I gotta save up the extra cabbage for a bov.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Byt is stirring it up!!
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Another thing that needs to be pointed out is installation error.
1) you need a block off plate with the diaphragm left inside
2) ditch the 3-way solenoid that connects to the ic pipe/bov/intake and plug up the now unused nipple on the ic pipe, the orifice of the solenoid restricts flow and might not fully open some bov's
3) run the bov directly to the intake manifold

I've been running my bov like this for almost two years now without any issues, but my maf is also relocated.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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you do not need a block off plate. i recommend it but not needed. You just need to know how to run the vacuum lines right
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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yeah someone needs to post a forum how to run the vacuum lines them without spending excess amount of money on useless stuff.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by peachpuff
Another thing that needs to be pointed out is installation error.
1) you need a block off plate with the diaphragm left inside
2) ditch the 3-way solenoid that connects to the ic pipe/bov/intake and plug up the now unused nipple on the ic pipe, the orifice of the solenoid restricts flow and might not fully open some bov's
3) run the bov directly to the intake manifold

I've been running my bov like this for almost two years now without any issues, but my maf is also relocated.
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yeah someone needs to post a forum how to run the vacuum lines them without spending excess amount of money on useless stuff.
peachpuff already did..
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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I mean by either video or photo illustration
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by efactor
yeah someone needs to post a forum how to run the vacuum lines them without spending excess amount of money on useless stuff.
x2. someone needs to do a correct way on how to run a BOV without recirculating the MAF and Shiizzaammm
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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dont buy a bov that is what is useless!!!
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by efactor
I mean by either video or photo illustration
Slightly different car but still an lnf, im sure you can figure out the locations of everything on a cobalt. The bov solenoid should still be left plugged in so it doesn't throw a cel.

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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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there is a how to on how to run the vacuum lines but it isn't on this forum
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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For every successful BOV story I hear 10 horror stories (CEL's, messed up fuel trims, flutter, rough idle....) How could you run a BOV and not be tuned for it, it just doesn't make sense?
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
I personally don't have one. But I have tuned a few cars running the HKS, Greddy, Hahn etc.. And a mix of recirc or VTA. Ive seen no drivability issues with any of them. Each did require some spring adjustment to release properly and not back spin the turbo.
This is alone for concern on my part.
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tom.g
For every successful BOV story I hear 10 horror stories (CEL's, messed up fuel trims, flutter, rough idle....) How could you run a BOV and not be tuned for it, it just doesn't make sense?
1) CEL's means someone didn't hook stuff up right (user error not BOV)
2) Messed up fuel trims- really? because obviously there are logs to prove otherwise. You can come ride in my car and look at my Scan Gauge if you don't believe me.
3) Flutter- I honestly don't know about this, I know i don't have any
4) Rough idle- ummmm I would love for someone to tell me how a BOV gives you a rough idle.

Im not trying to be a jackass but come on guys. If you don't know how a BOV works them please don't stir up more crap
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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User error is not the BOV's fault and thats how misinformation starts spreading. "Icouldn't figure it out, BOV's don't work" Then someone else reads that, starts spreading that and BAM...rumor started. lol.

Not trying to be a dick but they do need adjustment and you need to know what you're looking for when doing so.
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
User error is not the BOV's fault and thats how misinformation starts spreading. "Icouldn't figure it out, BOV's don't work" Then someone else reads that, starts spreading that and BAM...rumor started. lol.

Not trying to be a dick but they do need adjustment and you need to know what you're looking for when doing so.
So many people set the spring too tight and they end up with flutter dump. I know you know what flutter dump is, but for those who do not it is a type of compressor surge caused when it takes too long for a BOV or BPV to open. The throttle is closed and the airmass that is normally vented reverts and slams into the compressor. It is not cool for your BOV to go dooo doooo doooo dooo when you let off to shift. It is supposed to be one clean pssssssssssst sound.
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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also adding, it could also kill your turbo if the BOV doesn't open up enough to let out all the pressure out when you let off the gas.
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tom.g
For every successful BOV story I hear 10 horror stories (CEL's, messed up fuel trims, flutter, rough idle....) How could you run a BOV and not be tuned for it, it just doesn't make sense?
It has to be hooked up properly and IMHO the factory BPV should be blocked off. The BOV itself must be tuned to open at the proper time to prevent leaks and surging.
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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That's why I think its just a hassle and a waste, unless your going to a bigger turbo and think about pushing beyond 25psi.
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by efactor
also adding, it could also kill your turbo if the BOV doesn't open up enough to let out all the pressure out when you let off the gas.
Yes, when the airmass reverts it slams into the compressor and can shatter the blades if the shockwave is severe enough. Compressor surge is no joke.
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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I have had my HKS BOV VTA with the Dejon CP's for almost 1 year (It will be 1 year in July). That was stock, and it ran fine. I now also have the GMS1, and still no problems! Ernie (Negrita SS) installed the CP's & BOV for me. He did a FANTASTIC job! I am NOT using a block-off plate. And I am not using a MAF Relocation setup either. I have no trouble with it at all. I make the same power similar LNF's make and I don't surge or flutter at all. Here is a picture on how he wired it up:

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