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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 02:03 AM
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Broke a Lifter today!

so after my dyno run monday my solstice has been sounding like a Subaru, it just wasnt right, after i got back from the dyno i pulled the plugs to see what was going on, and the #2 coil disintigrated as i removed it from the head. i thought that was the cause of the strange sound for sure, but today after i replaced the coil it was still doing it, so i decided to pull the valve cover and see what i could see, and shure as $hit, the lifter for one of the #1 exhaust valves had broken off and the cam follower was laying in the head. i replaced the lifter and now no more subaru.

it was acting really wierd on the way to the dyno so i think i dynoed with a broken lifter, and broken meth injection, now i dont feel as upset that it made 330hp 360tq @5400. now i just need to figure out why its breaking up after 5400rpm. im tuning spark plug gaps right now. .032 is what im trying now. ill see how that works. then i gotta fix the meth

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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 02:12 AM
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First fracture i have seen like that
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 02:22 AM
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First fracture i have seen like that
im just glad it didnt break anything else
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 10:12 AM
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What happened with the meth?
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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Sexy looking solstice. If I were you I'd get the street edition headlights, I think it would go along real nice with your black wheels. It was the best visual mod I did on mine

0.032 should be a decent gap. That's what I gapped mine at after my ZFR swap.
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 03:09 PM
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Did you miss a gear? I bent mine shifting at 7.5K and went into 1st instead of 3rd.
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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What happened with the meth?
i have not investigated the meth yet, i need to check if the controller is putting voltage out to the meth? the pump is not turning on, could be a controller. or the pump, maybe wiring but i doubt it. ill let you know
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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Sexy looking solstice. If I were you I'd get the street edition headlights, I think it would go along real nice with your black wheels. It was the best visual mod I did on mine

0.032 should be a decent gap. That's what I gapped mine at after my ZFR swap.
Thank you, ive been looking for those headlights for a while, crate engine depot had them for a while but they say they are sold out now. im probably going to have to dissasemble mine and paint them.
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 10:58 PM
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You make it sound like changing the lifter was so easy.

Originally Posted by V8THIS
so after my dyno run monday my solstice has been sounding like a Subaru, it just wasnt right, after i got back from the dyno i pulled the plugs to see what was going on, and the #2 coil disintigrated as i removed it from the head. i thought that was the cause of the strange sound for sure, but today after i replaced the coil it was still doing it, so i decided to pull the valve cover and see what i could see, and shure as $hit, the lifter for one of the #1 exhaust valves had broken off and the cam follower was laying in the head. i replaced the lifter and now no more subaru.

it was acting really wierd on the way to the dyno so i think i dynoed with a broken lifter, and broken meth injection, now i dont feel as upset that it made 330hp 360tq @5400. now i just need to figure out why its breaking up after 5400rpm. im tuning spark plug gaps right now. .032 is what im trying now. ill see how that works. then i gotta fix the meth

Hey did you have to take out the head to get the lifter changed? I have a lifter broken on mine too. I was wondering if I could possibly just pick up the lashes at a junk yard? How hard is it to take out the cam to change the lifter?
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 12:10 PM
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Hey did you have to take out the head to get the lifter changed? I have a lifter broken on mine too. I was wondering if I could possibly just pick up the lashes at a junk yard? How hard is it to take out the cam to change the lifter?
Technically it's a lash adjuster not a lifter. You most definitely don't need to remove the head though. You'll just need to compress the corresponding valve/spring, and remove the follower. Once the follower is out of the way the old lash adjuster will come out easily with a small magnet. Then just repeat the process in reverse for reassembly. Just make sure the valve you are working on is fully closed at the time.

Also, just invest in a new lash adjuster. They're cheap enough new. Don't bother with buying something like that from a junk yard.
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 02:46 PM
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^^ no need to buy junkyard crap.
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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Exactly what 09cobalt said
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 09:23 PM
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Thanks guys! I'll be on this project this Thursday. Also anyone have a clue why I might have oil being pushed out my charge pipe like crazy a lot and out of my oil fill area? The whole thing started happening after my car started sounding like a Subaru. I would burn a lot of oil through my exhaust!
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 08:05 AM
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Dip stick has oil coming out of it? Sounds like blow by
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
Dip stick has oil coming out of it? Sounds like blow by
It's not blow by. It's crazy compression from my engine. I was told I should do a leak down test and see what's up. That's when I noticed the lash adjuster broken. Could the broken lash adjuster cause the rest of the cylinders to misfire and make oil be pressurized out of my oil full cap area?
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 11:07 AM
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No. Sounds like you cracked a piston.

Did you find a broken lash adjuster also? Or you're just guessing that's what it is?
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
No. Sounds like you cracked a piston.

Did you find a broken lash adjuster also? Or you're just guessing that's what it is?

I found the broken lash adjuster when I took the valve cover off. My car started sounding like a Subaru and it was throwing oil like crazy out of the engine. That was why I took the cover off. Now when I took the cover off I had found just pieces of my lash adjuster on top and my lifter just laying in the head. I was able to pick up a new lash adjuster today so I'm hoping I could put this together tomorrow. Only question I'm having right now is, would fixing that lash adjuster fix my oil problem?
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 12:03 PM
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No the broken lifter shouldn't affect anything else, I've seen them happen on local cars and there were no adverse effects aside from the slight power loss and exhaust note change. You have another, more serious problem.
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 12:30 PM
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Your problem sounds like exactly what YelCal7 went through. He broke an adjuster and his timing skipped. The broken adjuster may not cause serious issues like ItalianJoe1 said, but it's very possible your timing chain skipped nearly the same time that it happened. Get the new adjuster, and while you're there see about verifying your timing chain.

After that, check on the oil issue. It may or may not be related.
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by exninja
Your problem sounds like exactly what YelCal7 went through. He broke an adjuster and his timing skipped. The broken adjuster may not cause serious issues like ItalianJoe1 said, but it's very possible your timing chain skipped nearly the same time that it happened. Get the new adjuster, and while you're there see about verifying your timing chain.After that, check on the oil issue. It may or may not be related.

Thanks guys I'm really hoping that it will run fine after fixing the lash adjuster and thanks ok the heads up with the timing. I've gone through hell with pouring money into going to separate shops to get this fixed.

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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
Dip stick has oil coming out of it? Sounds like blow by

So I just fixed the lash adjusters and I started up the car. The car still sounds like a Subaru and there's air being compressed out of the dip stick. What could be the issue? What is blow by?
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Old Jul 16, 2015 | 01:01 AM
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Did you check your timing?

Blow-by is the gas that gets past the piston rings. A small amount is unavoidable and is taken care of by the pcv system. Too much blow by can overwhelm the system and come out of the dipstick. This can be caused by a cracked piston or a malfunctioning pcv system.
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Old Jul 16, 2015 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by exninja
Did you check your timing?

Blow-by is the gas that gets past the piston rings. A small amount is unavoidable and is taken care of by the pcv system. Too much blow by can overwhelm the system and come out of the dipstick. This can be caused by a cracked piston or a malfunctioning pcv system.
To check the timing, wouldn't I have to take the engine out of the car? Or drop it a little? I have an lnf ss and not sure how the timing is supposed to be set up.
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Old Jul 16, 2015 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Timnman
To check the timing, wouldn't I have to take the engine out of the car? Or drop it a little? I have an lnf ss and not sure how the timing is supposed to be set up.
No...

You simply remove the front cover on the engine.

No need to remove the engine to check timing or to time it.
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