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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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I would take it in to the dealer. Warranty is there for a reason. Don't start patching it together when you can get it fixed properly with new parts.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DoubleLP
I would take it in to the dealer. Warranty is there for a reason. Don't start patching it together when you can get it fixed properly with new parts.
umm all they are going to do is put the bullshit they had on it befor
whats that going to fix.. if it broke the first time it can break a second time

what is stronger?

a zip tie (FTW)
OR
plastic piece (FTL)
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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So the warranty that someone has paid for is basically useless in this situation?

If it were me, I have paid to have the warranty....I am sure as hell going to make sure I get my moneys worth from the dealer. But that is just my opinion.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PimpLay2

what is stronger?

a zip tie (FTW)
OR
plastic piece (FTL)
Aren't zip ties made of plastic?
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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The warranty should cover this.

The UAW clowns didn't install my shifter assembly correctly and I had to re-adjust the linkages in order for it to work correctly.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit that, in many cases, they didn't clip the shifter linkages into the cables properly...because this was the case for me...

I like this design though because 10 years ago many FWD cars had these cable linkage adjustments at the shift tower on the transmission. This is much more serviceable...
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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Hmmm and this is a new car?
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Hmmm and this is a new car?
True, but the same exact tranny and linkage that's been in use since the first '04 Redline.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty
This happened to me too during REGULAR driving and shifting. Make sure to snap it back in place. I havn't had a problem since...but I don't drive it terribly hard since it's the DD and still under 5K miles
The only 2 times it's happened i didn't have any decent source of light and i never got it clipped into place but with 24hours of it happening i got some light and made sure it was clipped into place good, if it happens again i'm putting some thick ass zip ties on there
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 06:26 AM
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I broke the cable before. just take it to dealer..
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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I have done the no lift with out comp mod as well, works perfectly every time. My SS/SC didn't come with the no lift **** feature but some how I did like most people who race in tons of other cars. Maybe if you are horrible at shifting you need to use the comp mods computer assistance. Power shifting is nothing new and can be done with out help from the computer. As far as zip ties I wouldn't do it as a permanent fix, I would recommend taking it into the dealer. Its a new car take advantage of the warranty.
I dont understand how all these people are saying they are doing it without comp mode? Power shifting is quite possible, IF you get NO wheel spin while doing it. If you do, the traction control detects the wheel spin as low traction, KILLS the engine power, and engages the anti-lock brakes to stop the spin! Ive encountered this a few times while trying without comp mode. Comp mode also changes the way the traction control reacts (according to GM). You can test this yourself. Take a sharp turn (like a u-turn) without comp control, and wait while the computer waits for you to straighten out before applying max power. Do that same turn with comp mode on or Traction control off, and you will get almost full power through the entire turn, almost yanking the wheel from your hands with the torque steer.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by choko
I broke the cable before. just take it to dealer..

You, break something? Never!
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho
You, break something? Never!



for all the power adders, testing , track time with car, breaking stuff.

one thing thats still good are my cv shafts oddly. one is clicking. but still hasnt broke.

im sure it will next time at the track.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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hey im new to this site but i've had a ss/tc for about 3 months and i had the same problem you had. NO you CAN NOT no lift shift without comp mode trust me. i learned the hard way yea it will let you but sometimes the car will try to stop you from puting it into gear. I did this without comp mode and i was ripping through the gears racing my friend like the third night i had it and it bent a shift cable this is probably what you did. just take it to your dealership and tell them you don't know what happened they'll fix it. I've been no lifting WITH comp mode ever since then and haven't had a problem

no lift shift's purpose is to eliminate turbo lag and maintain the boost while you shift so why would you do it in a supercharged car that makes ful boost as soon as you are on the throttle??

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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nate08sstc
hey im new to this site but i've had a ss/tc for about 3 months and i had the same problem you had. NO you CAN NOT no lift shift without comp mode trust me. i learned the hard way yea it will let you but sometimes the car will try to stop you from puting it into gear. I did this without comp mode and i was ripping through the gears racing my friend like the third night i had it and it bent a shift cable this is probably what you did. just take it to your dealership and tell them you don't know what happened they'll fix it. I've been no lifting WITH comp mode ever since then and haven't had a problem

no lift shift's purpose is to eliminate turbo lag and maintain the boost while you shift so why would you do it in a supercharged car that makes ful boost as soon as you are on the throttle??
Well, all you are doing is powershifting, but GM has given you this gizmo that is supposed to assist in not breaking the car...

Well, actually you're still putting additional stress on the clutch and synchros.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nate08sstc
hey im new to this site but i've had a ss/tc for about 3 months and i had the same problem you had. NO you CAN NOT no lift shift without comp mode trust me. i learned the hard way yea it will let you but sometimes the car will try to stop you from puting it into gear. I did this without comp mode and i was ripping through the gears racing my friend like the third night i had it and it bent a shift cable this is probably what you did. just take it to your dealership and tell them you don't know what happened they'll fix it. I've been no lifting WITH comp mode ever since then and haven't had a problem

no lift shift's purpose is to eliminate turbo lag and maintain the boost while you shift so why would you do it in a supercharged car that makes ful boost as soon as you are on the throttle??
You CAN power shift in or out of comp mode trust me I DO IT! Power shifting was not "invented" just for turbo cars. Its purpose is to speed up the shifting and not dipping your RPM's into the lower part of your power band. When letting off the gas you start to loose all your engines momentum and keeping your pedal to the floor you loose allot less going into the nest gear. IF you are having trouble "no lift shifting" then you are doing something wrong. IF it is not letting you in the next gear then you missed your window of opportunity. That is the trade off of power shifting, sometimes it works perfect then other times your going down the track looking like a retard for not knowing how to shift. Now if you want to say there is no reason to no lift shift out of comp mod I would agree. I just have to get used to reaching down and touching the button.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RBC
You CAN power shift in or out of comp mode trust me I DO IT! Power shifting was not "invented" just for turbo cars. Its purpose is to speed up the shifting and not dipping your RPM's into the lower part of your power band. When letting off the gas you start to loose all your engines momentum and keeping your pedal to the floor you loose allot less going into the nest gear. IF you are having trouble "no lift shifting" then you are doing something wrong. IF it is not letting you in the next gear then you missed your window of opportunity. That is the trade off of power shifting, sometimes it works perfect then other times your going down the track looking like a retard for not knowing how to shift. Now if you want to say there is no reason to no lift shift out of comp mod I would agree. I just have to get used to reaching down and touching the button.
i have since used comp mode after having to clip the cable back in, it seems to work better, tho i haven't completely eliminated the poping sound, i hope to do that tonight at the track.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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i have since used comp mode after having to clip the cable back in, it seems to work better, tho i haven't completely eliminated the poping sound, i hope to do that tonight at the track.
Popping sound out of the exhaust? You're not going to eliminate that - you're supposed to hear it if you've shifted right.

Unless you're talking about your shifter.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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Popping sound out of the exhaust? You're not going to eliminate that - you're supposed to hear it if you've shifted right.

Unless you're talking about your shifter.

QFT! +1
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 02:44 AM
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if you want to hear a popping sound....

go catless... and install an intake.... 1st to 2nd the car is so lean it pops and sometimes blow fireballs
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PimpLay2
if you want to hear a popping sound....

go catless... and install an intake.... 1st to 2nd the car is so lean it pops and sometimes blow fireballs
lol that'd be sweet, good to hear that the popping sound says i got it right ever time, i'm very happy with the noliftshift and launch control, i definately underestimated their abilities.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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fire *****?? thats bad ass
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PimpLay2
if you want to hear a popping sound....

go catless... and install an intake.... 1st to 2nd the car is so lean it pops and sometimes blow fireballs
That's rich, not lean.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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4k miles broken shift cable

Appears the problem is growing.

Talking with GM service I have discovered a backlog of warrenty repair / orders for these cables (a.k.a. known porblem that is growing began with the turbos being introduced).

My probelm formed at at about 4200 miles on the car. The no-lift-shift is amazing, but the mechanics of the car are under engineered to handle the design.

In my case, yes I was pushing through the gears as to be expected with the SS features.
Around 4k miles is the beginning of a good break in. (Some will argue that modern machining eliminates the need for a break in, but the first 5k miles will tell you if something is a factory defect as well). And there it is, 4,200 miles and kabammo, shift cable broke.

I guess they need an upgrade from the old lawnmower throttle cable to a beefier rod linkage setup.

As for the people that are upset--GM is partly to blame. I am currently going rounds with GM NA as they told me they would cover me with an enterprise rental for four days and then review my case. When I went to get a rental I was told there was no such policy. Many phone calls later and still no answer. customer service is about all GM has going for them during these economic times.

BTW ETA on cable: next day to the next month, no firm date.

If you have similar problems call:

GM 1-800-222-1020

If you talk to Darell P he will tell you you have coverage
If you talk to Glenn K he will tell you you do not

Still not happy call:

GM distirct level support--1-866-790-5600
Ext. 32034 ask for Sherri L.

I was assured that I would have a return call from Sherri Saturday November 8th by noon.

NO CALL

Today is Monday noon. I have left multiple voicemails--no return call.


BTW I am a second shift manager at a tier one supplier and am amazed at how the customers are being treated for what appears to me to be a common design flaw. While yes the "abuse" in quick shifting is from the operator, there is the design as well. GM is fully aware that quick shifting will create extra wear, these parts must not fail in the extra stress environment. If the parts cannot sustain the sress then the problem is an engineering mistake, not an operator mistake. The defect is the underengineering, not the using the car for what it is advertised, billed as and purchased for.
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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you obviously cant compare a rwd shift linkage to a fwd linkage... rwd linkage is direct to the trans.. fwd is all in cables and such, i have nls my car hundreds of times and just this weekend popped a pin loose on the trans side that connects the aluminum piece to the shift shaft. reason being.. i got excited and shifted really hard... just as im sure most of you are doing.. which is why you're all breaking linkages.. shifting fast isnt the same as shifting hard.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 07:36 AM
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mine broke last night. i still have all my gears, but 2, 4, and R are sloppy feeling. totally killed my night. going to the dealer in a few minutes.
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