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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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The screen was immaculate on my dead one at 50k, it just **** the bed.
Ouch, yeah. Mine had even been contaminated with coolant and still survived. I think its just luck of the draw like everything else on these cars.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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Ouch, they charged you out the ass. You don't even have to remove the valve cover, just an 8mm bolt on each one.
troof. awful.

well the bolt is 6 x 1.5 not 8mm and has a 10mm socket head. but otherwise, troof lol

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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 12:07 AM
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These are exactly the parts I just had to have get replaced - GM dealership only charged ~ $50 for each, however the labor behind this was insanely expensive ($600+). 2008 T/c which just passed 90k miles - first things to really go on the car. What I don't understand is I've had them change the oil every time, always (presumably) with the right oil - how the hell does this happen?
It sounds like they charged you the labor for the physical phasers instead of these solenoids. I believe they are both listed as actuators, so maybe they looked up the wrong labor time associated with it and then didn't say anything about it. It takes some time to replace one or both physical phasers. It took me five minutes to replace both of these solenoids though.

Unplug electrical connection, remove bolt, pull solenoid out, slide new solenoid in, tighten bolt, plug in connection. Done. Repeat for other one if needed.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Stamina
It sounds like they charged you the labor for the physical phasers instead of these solenoids. I believe they are both listed as actuators, so maybe they looked up the wrong labor time associated with it and then didn't say anything about it. It takes some time to replace one or both physical phasers. It took me five minutes to replace both of these solenoids though.

Unplug electrical connection, remove bolt, pull solenoid out, slide new solenoid in, tighten bolt, plug in connection. Done. Repeat for other one if needed.
Yeah I would take my invoice right back over there and ask for an explanation and a refund. That's bogus.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 05:19 AM
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Yeah I would take my invoice right back over there and ask for an explanation and a refund. That's bogus.
this...this is a 2 minute job. no reason you should have been charged that much
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 05:21 AM
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THEN call gm and tell them they attempted to take advantage of you. At least if it turns out like we think. Crooks don't deserve any leniency in these situations IMO.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 06:55 AM
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I actually just had mine throw me a code at 33000
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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mine went at 45000 kms. my new motor has about 15000 kms on it now so i should be expecting them to go again soon. the original motor in my car cracked between the water pump and oil pan at 60 000 miles. or about 100 000kms. I'm hoping I got a crap motor last time and it doesnt happen again.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
troof. awful.

well the bolt is 6 x 1.5 not 8mm and has a 10mm socket head. but otherwise, troof lol


sigh. I probably could have done this myself. $@#%
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 90everydirection


sigh. I probably could have done this myself. $@#%
Can you scan and post up your invoice? I'd like to see it.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 04:59 PM
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Can you scan and post up your invoice? I'd like to see it.
Sure hopefully you can see it attached below. I also have higher resolution images available as well. I just blocked out my cell & advisor's name.
You should be able to see the 2 part numbers (listed as $50 each) and then the huge labor cost immediately below (labor set to $459.00)

Also - don't judge my poor car's mileage she's my Daily driver
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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Holy crap!
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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Wow.... That's just rediculous. I would absolutely take this up with the service writer at the dealer.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Holy bajeezus... You got seriously hosed. Where's Sarah from GM Customer Service? She needs to see this.

For sure go back and get $445 of your money back. Also noticed that they just replaced the bulbs in your headlights when you said it didn't work from switching it but worked with keyless entry. Curious if THAT did anything...
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 07:41 AM
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OMG dude. You need to address that ASAP, or it's going to be four hundred bucks down the drain.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Holy crap!
^ this! How can that possibly book out that high?
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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Well, like I stated earlier, they probably looked up the labor for the physical phasers on the cams, and not the phaser solenoids. I believe they are both labeled as "Phaser Actuators", so it might have been easy to get them confused.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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The tech had to know there was something wrong, though, when it only took him 10 minutes to change both.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlobalt
The tech had to know there was something wrong, though, when it only took him 10 minutes to change both.
EXACTLY! They get paid by the book so in his mind, he just made BANK b/c he got that done in like 5 seconds. Crooks crooks crooks!!
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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The tech had to know there was something wrong, though, when it only took him 10 minutes to change both.
Well yeah, that part I definitely agree with.
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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Swapped mine out, for the new upgraded ones.
The noise that I had is now gone...

I had the strangest noise on cold startups , for months.
The noise only lasted, maybe one second, some sort of gear,
'grabbing' or 'catching' into place, type of noise.
I had thought that it was some sort of oil 'drain-back' issue.
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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It looks like I should change mind out as well just to prevent this from happening to me too?
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by blrt
It looks like I should change mind out as well just to prevent this from happening to me too?
Todd if you want a set I have some in stock for you at a very good price lol
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Save me a set John. Maybe you can mail them to me along with the pcv kit when you have it or I may drop by your shop on a weekend. Lmk Thanks.
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Had my exhaust camshaft actuator go out at like 50k. The car would shake and shudder at idle but would drive fine. It was replaced under the powertrain warranty
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