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Does Trifecta Tune Really Cause Clutch Sliping?

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Old 06-18-2009, 12:00 AM
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Does Trifecta Tune Really Cause Clutch Sliping?

So everyone thinks that trifecta causes clutch slipping so i was wondering how many of you guys really have this problem. please be honest causes this influences peoples choices in tunes.
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my clutch isnt slipping at all!
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poll up!
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it's not a matter of who tunes it .. it's a matter of adding 100 wtrq to the stock clutch
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ya so i was thinking of superchips but i dont want a canned tune. and from what gm is stating for the stage kit, what is it like 275 crank hp without their intake. i dont know what to do.
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You could always ask Trifecta to "take it easy" so you dont make as much power. lol
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Originally Posted by Pyros777
You could always ask Trifecta to "take it easy" so you dont make as much power. lol
what vince has said is it's NLSing with a tune

that in general is hard
Old 06-18-2009, 12:27 AM
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In any case, it shouldnt matter who tunes you. If you make enough power your clutch is going to slip. I'm surprised this is being posed as a serious question.
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Originally Posted by Pyros777
In any case, it shouldnt matter who tunes you. If you make enough power your clutch is going to slip. I'm surprised this is being posed as a serious question.
precisely
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im just trying to clear up how everyone thinks that the AVERAGE trifecta tune causes clutch slipping. so if this is a stupid question, sorry, but i was just curious.
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Does the trifecta tune cause the front tires to wear out?
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Originally Posted by rukkee
Does the trifecta tune cause the front tires to wear out?
haha i would assume so
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The clutch will slip under stock power if you drive it wrong.

This thread is pointless.
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go read the superchips thread. they say that trifecta tune makes your clutch slip a lot. all im asking is if its true.
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Originally Posted by eman777
go read the superchips thread. they say that trifecta tune makes your clutch slip a lot. all im asking is if its true.
That is a compliment then cause superchips has no idea what they are talking about. the only time when we were making the tune it slipped was on the dyno and that is because it is under more load then normal. on the road i have had no clutch slip and i NLS everyday with no issues
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Originally Posted by Cobaltss/TC
That is a compliment then cause superchips has no idea what they are talking about. the only time when we were making the tune it slipped was on the dyno and that is because it is under more load then normal. on the road i have had no clutch slip and i NLS everyday with no issues
Thank You! someone is finally helpful!
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Go for the trifecta tune... Vince has spent a lot of effort addressing the 'slip' issues in his tune (the tune was reported to be a little aggressive initially)... I have had mine tunes for months now with no slip...
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our stock clutch is only rated for a little over 300hp so anything more then that will do it. why do you think the gmpp stage kits numbers are so low
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Originally Posted by dunit121
our stock clutch is only rated for a little over 300hp so anything more then that will do it. why do you think the gmpp stage kits numbers are so low
:facepalm:

Clutches are rated by horsepower...they're rated by torque


I was over 300wtq on the stock clutch with MINIMUM slippage...and when it was slipping it was my fault.
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
:facepalm:

Clutches aren't rated by horsepower...they're rated by torque


I was over 300wtq on the stock clutch with MINIMUM slippage...and when it was slipping it was my fault.
Haha beat me to it....but I'll fix it for ya
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i Have a custom tune, im making 334tq. my clutch slips if im granny shifting around town alot and i gun it at like 2k rpm's i get a little slip in 2nd gear. The way our torque curve is, we make peak torque at like 3k RPM. sucks, but thats how it is. So if you get on it at a low rpm you may get slippage if you dont properly shift at over 3k when normal driving. When driving just shift through 1st and 2nd at 3-3.5k and you should be fine. I noticed my clutch grabbed alot better after doing that.
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Steddy is right. Case in point, I could make our clutch slip with HP/TQ ratings of a lawnmower. Bad driving causes clutch slipping. Aggressive tunes do not cause it, but they can help attribute to it if you cant drive a manual properly, or WOT on an aggressive tune. Of course malfunction, ie leaking slave cylinder saturates clutch, can cause it too. Trifecta tunes DO NOT necessarily cause slippage, but how how you drive your trifecta tuned cobalt does.
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No slippage on a Trifecta tune, even with NLS. Smokes the tires pretty good 1-2 & chirps 2-3. Been tooned for about 8500 miles now. No issues. Will get it tweaked when the CIA short ram comes out & I put on the hot side piping.

K&N drop in is the only current mod with the tune.
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Originally Posted by Iam Broke
No slippage on a Trifecta tune, even with NLS. Smokes the tires pretty good 1-2 & chirps 2-3. Been tooned for about 8500 miles now. No issues. Will get it tweaked when the CIA short ram comes out & I put on the hot side piping.

K&N drop in is the only current mod with the tune.
do you know what your wheel hp/tq numbers are? or approximatly what they are.
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Great thread imo, I have been curious about this, that is if I am understanding it.

All of my high HP cars have been autos, so I may be a little behind. I am not understanding how bad driving = clutch slip. I am assuming you are referring to a fully engaged gear that has more tq than the clutch can handle and it causes it to slip out. If that is the case, I don't see how that is driving failure, and not clutch failure.

If, on the other hand, you are talking about slipping during launches, and aggressive shifts, then I would say, a hot clutch is pretty likely to start having some slipping issues, and a regularly heated clutch is probably not long for this world, and then it is something anyone driving a manual should know.

My best guess is some people are referring to slipping as stated in my first paragraph while others are referring to the more dumb ass kind in the second, and each group thinks the other doesn't get the topic.
So I either somewhat don't get all that is going on here, or I completely don't know what is going on here.

Any clarification would be appreciated.

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