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a few ideas
Throwing out of few ideas.. may add or remove parts based on performance gains and if and when i go broke [lol]..
Engine/Induction-
Wiseco - LNF Piston Set
Carrillo - LNF Super A-Beam
GMPP - LNF Gasket kit
Cometic - LNF Head Gaskets [3]
ARP - Head stud kit
ARP - Main/Crank stud kit
Moroso - Dry Sump Oil Pump system (4 stage)
Moroso - Hi-PO Engine Oil Cooler
Bullseye Power E-Tip S362 turbo
ZZP SRI w/V-Band flanges [updated for turbo setup]
ZZP Charge pipes w/V-Band flanges [updated]
Tial BOV w/V-Band flanges
ZZP 78# Valve Springs
ZZP Intake Cam
ZZP Exhaust Cam
ZZP Intake manifold [boxed] w/V-Band flanges
ZZP Tubular Exhaust Manifold [updated] w/V-Band flanges
Tial Wastegate w/V-Band flanges
ZZP Dump tube
ZZP Secondary Fuel system
Staged boost controller
West Coast CNC Ported head [flow-benched]
NOS - Staged 75-100 shot system
Stainless Steel Vacuum lines
Tranny-
ZZP built 4T65HD
ZZP 245mm high performance torque converter
ZZP Flex plate
Single chain gear set
VSS reluctor wheel for gear changes
Axles
Shafts
ZZP Input shaft
ZZP Output shaft [gun drilled]
ZZP Oil pump shaft
ZZP Motor [FWD mounts]
ZZP Trans mounts [FWD mounts]
B&M HI-PO Tranny oil cooler
Engine/Induction-
Wiseco - LNF Piston Set
Carrillo - LNF Super A-Beam
GMPP - LNF Gasket kit
Cometic - LNF Head Gaskets [3]
ARP - Head stud kit
ARP - Main/Crank stud kit
Moroso - Dry Sump Oil Pump system (4 stage)
Moroso - Hi-PO Engine Oil Cooler
Bullseye Power E-Tip S362 turbo
ZZP SRI w/V-Band flanges [updated for turbo setup]
ZZP Charge pipes w/V-Band flanges [updated]
Tial BOV w/V-Band flanges
ZZP 78# Valve Springs
ZZP Intake Cam
ZZP Exhaust Cam
ZZP Intake manifold [boxed] w/V-Band flanges
ZZP Tubular Exhaust Manifold [updated] w/V-Band flanges
Tial Wastegate w/V-Band flanges
ZZP Dump tube
ZZP Secondary Fuel system
Staged boost controller
West Coast CNC Ported head [flow-benched]
NOS - Staged 75-100 shot system
Stainless Steel Vacuum lines
Tranny-
ZZP built 4T65HD
ZZP 245mm high performance torque converter
ZZP Flex plate
Single chain gear set
VSS reluctor wheel for gear changes
Axles
Shafts
ZZP Input shaft
ZZP Output shaft [gun drilled]
ZZP Oil pump shaft
ZZP Motor [FWD mounts]
ZZP Trans mounts [FWD mounts]
B&M HI-PO Tranny oil cooler
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S472 dammm you are going to need spray to spool that lol they put those on Single turbo LS1's. You shooting for 1000 hp? i'd recomend drilling out the head and block for 1/2" studs along with a double O-ring and a partial or full fill of block cement. Don't know if the ecotec has problems with the mains but it may need to be strengthened there as well. Also I don't know how your stock crank is gonna like that much power. If your not running c16 i'd pick up meth. the nitrous system would have to be direct port and I would run a standalone fuel system for it. the S362 is good for over 700 hp and the 472 is good for over 900 hp and you want to throw a 100-200 shot on top of that good luck bro take plenty of pics im glad there's guys out there trying to find the limits so I don't have to
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S472 dammm you are going to need spray to spool that lol they put those on Single turbo LS1's. You shooting for 1000 hp? i'd recomend drilling out the head and block for 1/2" studs along with a double O-ring and a partial or full fill of block cement. Don't know if the ecotec has problems with the mains but it may need to be strengthened there as well. Also I don't know how your stock crank is gonna like that much power. If your not running c16 i'd pick up meth. the nitrous system would have to be direct port and I would run a standalone fuel system for it. the S362 is good for over 700 hp and the 472 is good for over 900 hp and you want to throw a 100-200 shot on top of that good luck bro take plenty of pics im glad there's guys out there trying to find the limits so I don't have to
most likely, set her up for 93 oct and 110 [dual tanks], as for the bottom end there many options to look at before we proceed..
1/2'' studs [head & block] part numbers?
just parts alone $10 -$15k.. labor will be around $5 - $10k, most of the parts are off the shelf..
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S472 isnt that big at all, its a tad bigger than the S262, there are WAY bigger TC out there..
this build is similar to the 1400hp ecotec: Ecotec 1400hp race motor & 1400 HP Turbo Ecotec Build
most likely, set her up for 93 oct and 110 [dual tanks], as for the bottom end there many options to look at before we proceed..
1/2'' studs [head & block] part numbers?
just parts alone $10 -$15k.. labor will be around $5 - $10k, most of the parts are off the shelf..
i'm not rich, but saved many pennys over last few months. job market suxs..
sick is nice but wtfyc is better.. lol..
this build is similar to the 1400hp ecotec: Ecotec 1400hp race motor & 1400 HP Turbo Ecotec Build
most likely, set her up for 93 oct and 110 [dual tanks], as for the bottom end there many options to look at before we proceed..
1/2'' studs [head & block] part numbers?
just parts alone $10 -$15k.. labor will be around $5 - $10k, most of the parts are off the shelf..
i'm not rich, but saved many pennys over last few months. job market suxs..
sick is nice but wtfyc is better.. lol..
http://www.gmperformancedivision.com...onneville.aspx
there is some good info on the bonneville salt flat car
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oo and i reeeeally dont recomend putting a 200 shot... thats just asking to break no matter wat motor u have...
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There aren't any aftermarket blocks or heads with 1/2" studs as far as I know its just something you do to the block that a machine shop does for you. the 1/2" studs i'd just get from ARP. one thing to consider though from what I read the GM 1400 hp ecotec race motor was built to only stay together for less than 1 minute at full throttle if your lucky. There is actually vids on youtube of them changing the motor out in 8 minutes. As I recall they had to set it down to 700 something hp to run a top speed run at bonneville and that was only suppose to hold together for less than 1 hour at WOT. so if you plan to only rebuild this motor once you may have to set your goals lower power wise or build it stronger than GM. An S472 is a solid 10mm bigger than a 362 thats a huge difference one will make an extra 200 hp the biggest turbos you see on 4 bangers are usually 75-76mm and thats really race only you rarely see bigger than that. your talking about turbos they run on single 5.5L+ V8 turbo kits I think the biggest i've seen on a street driven car is a GT42 which is a 70mm If you want this to live for any extended period of time i'd run an 362 or 364 with a billet wheel and no nitrous unless its like a 35 shot to spool it IMO you won't be able to run a 472 to its full potential. If you tell us your power/ET/trap speed goals im sure we all could recomend a good setup and what turbo you will want to use because at the end of the day your gonna want the smallest turbo that can reach your power goals at a good efficiancy percentage. Also the general rule of building race motors and racing in general is to set your budget up and then double it plan on alot of unexpected costs its just what happens when racing
GM Performance Division :: Racing :: Articles :: Bonneville Salt Flats
there is some good info on the bonneville salt flat car
GM Performance Division :: Racing :: Articles :: Bonneville Salt Flats
there is some good info on the bonneville salt flat car
yes there are but the problem is that u have a 4 banger... unless you want to spool up the turbo at 7k rpm, you would need to go lower... bigger is not always better
oo and i reeeeally dont recomend putting a 200 shot... thats just asking to break no matter wat motor u have...
oo and i reeeeally dont recomend putting a 200 shot... thats just asking to break no matter wat motor u have...
another idea was to produce/engineer a cnc billet alum LNF motor/head, an exact copy w/ extra ribs, larger oil ports/lines, thicker mains/caps, remove oil can [dry sump], larger water jacket, extra injector in the head [meth/c16], larger valves, larger ports, etc.. the list goes on..
found a few shops who can do it, but the block alone is over $15k and the head was $9k..
1. LNF block/head to CAD/M [1 to 2 weeks] $2-5k
2. CNC 1 block [2-4 days] $10k each
3. CNC 2 heads [2 days for each] $3k each [heads were virtual ported/ flow benched]
4. prep block/head: sleeves, deck, polish, etc. $500 for each item
5. build out the block/head with parts $20-40k [mostly labor]
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An S362 is not going to be too hard on the car your not going to need a billet block or anything custom. its good for high 600's to the wheels at least. that should be doable with off the shelf parts. If you could hook it all up from a dig it would be a 9 second car.
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I don't think he is going to need that honestly with a layered trifecta/hpt tune you can get full wastegate control and boost by gear. idk his power goals but you can run stage 1 sensors and just pick a turbo big enough to reach his goals by 30 psi
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$1mil Veyron or $250k SSC Ultimate Aero = 250 mph
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If I were spending that much money on the rods I would spend the extra $150 for the H-Beam's. Then again if I were trying to make 1000hp it wouldn't be with the fuel deprived LNF unless you're comfortable spraying the house down.
Strongly recommend reading the Ecotec build book.
Strongly recommend reading the Ecotec build book.
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btw did you ever recieve that pic i sent you i never heard back from you
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After you build that, would you like to swap cars for a while I promise I'll give it back
Thats a good amount of power man good luck with everything and I will deff. stay tuned to see pics and stuff
Thats a good amount of power man good luck with everything and I will deff. stay tuned to see pics and stuff