2.0L LNF Performance Tech 260hp and 260 lb-ft of torque Turbocharged tuner version.

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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gone_in_10_sec
my goals are at least 900hp/tq range, any lower it wouldn't make sense to spend a ton money [$30k] to get there..

$1mil Veyron or $250k SSC Ultimate Aero = 250 mph
yep....legit boost controller if your serious. ams1000....hell it would be kool if you could run a big stuff 3 too lol.
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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this is true. but i still think an ams1000 or ams500 would be beneficial....he said he wants a "staged" boost controller and that pos 2 stage from turbo smart doesnt count. hes doing a serious build he might aswell spend the little extra to get some extra...

btw did you ever recieve that pic i sent you i never heard back from you
yeah it looked great im planning on fabbing something up like that only with the stock throttle body location once the secondary fuel rail kit comes out

Originally Posted by gone_in_10_sec
my goals are at least 900hp/tq range, any lower it wouldn't make sense to spend a ton money [$30k] to get there..

$1mil Veyron or $250k SSC Ultimate Aero = 250 mph
900 hp/tq damm your going all out. ok your definatly going to need a big ass turbo. For that power I'd go with an S372 turbo thats the smallest Bullseye turbo that can move the 90+ lb/min your gonna need. Plan to rev the crap outta the motor to be able to use that powerband and a small 35-50 shot to spool it. FYI your only gonna need around 700 wheel hp to take a veyron they only trap around 140 assuming traction is there

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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wickedlsj
If I were spending that much money on the rods I would spend the extra $150 for the H-Beam's. Then again if I were trying to make 1000hp it wouldn't be with the fuel deprived LNF unless you're comfortable spraying the house down.

Strongly recommend reading the Ecotec build book.
read the ecotec build book at least 8 times.. I read on other forums the H rods where failing, idk if this true or not.. but this was from engine builder who built a few hi-hp ecotec's.. he did say H rod are great depending on the application/hp/build..

Originally Posted by whyyoumadson?
this is true. but i still think an ams1000 or ams500 would be beneficial....he said he wants a "staged" boost controller and that pos 2 stage from turbo smart doesnt count. hes doing a serious build he might aswell spend the little extra to get some extra...
AMS 1000!!

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After you build that, would you like to swap cars for a while I promise I'll give it back

Thats a good amount of power man good luck with everything and I will deff. stay tuned to see pics and stuff
thanks, i have let a few people run my cars, but only on the track.
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by blackvette101
900 hp/tq damm your going all out. ok your definatly going to need a big ass turbo. For that power I'd go with an S372 turbo thats the smallest Bullseye turbo that can move the 90+ lb/min your gonna need. Plan to rev the crap outta the motor to be able to use that powerband and a small 35-50 shot to spool it. FYI your only gonna need around 700 wheel hp to take a veyron they only trap around 140 assuming traction is there
i've talked to a few engine builders & tuners about my build, BAT= Big A$$ Turbo setup could land me - up near 1000 hp, they all say the same thing, dump the ECM. its the only thing holding the "LNF" from reaching anywhere near 1000+, even with a built bottom end, and still using a "tuned" or "tricking" the ecm, the ECM is going to limit the output, some of them are saying I should use a custom AEM "Series 2 Plug & Play EMS" is best way to go..

i sent AEM an email request for a custom Series 2 Plug & Play EMS for the Cobalt, just going to wait and see what it will take to get one setup (r&d/cost/etc..)..
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by blackvette101
yeah it looked great im planning on fabbing something up like that only with the stock throttle body location once the secondary fuel rail kit comes out



900 hp/tq damm your going all out. ok your definatly going to need a big ass turbo. For that power I'd go with an S372 turbo thats the smallest Bullseye turbo that can move the 90+ lb/min your gonna need. Plan to rev the crap outta the motor to be able to use that powerband and a small 35-50 shot to spool it. FYI your only gonna need around 700 wheel hp to take a veyron they only trap around 140 assuming traction is there
thanks we kept it traditional to cram air in there....every runner has velocity stacks in it aswell...


have you thought about other turbos and not just bullseye? percisions my company of choice.. better turbos in my opinion....the camaros getting a pair of 7275s next.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by whyyoumadson?
thanks we kept it traditional to cram air in there....every runner has velocity stacks in it aswell...


have you thought about other turbos and not just bullseye? percisions my company of choice.. better turbos in my opinion....the camaros getting a pair of 7275s next.
precision makes a nice turbo too at the end most well designed 72mm turbos are going to move 90+ lb/min. the op seems to have a preferance for BW turbos so i tried to recomend something from that brand. what ci you running twin 72's on the maro.

Originally Posted by gone_in_10_sec
i've talked to a few engine builders & tuners about my build, BAT= Big A$$ Turbo setup could land me - up near 1000 hp, they all say the same thing, dump the ECM. its the only thing holding the "LNF" from reaching anywhere near 1000+, even with a built bottom end, and still using a "tuned" or "tricking" the ecm, the ECM is going to limit the output, some of them are saying I should use a custom AEM "Series 2 Plug & Play EMS" is best way to go..

i sent AEM an email request for a custom Series 2 Plug & Play EMS for the Cobalt, just going to wait and see what it will take to get one setup (r&d/cost/etc..)..
Right now I would agree but don't sell the stock ecm short it just hasn't been fully unlocked. there are guys with the much less advanced E39 controller running into the 7's with LSx motors with just HPT. And i shot an informercial type thing on the speed channel for HPT and i talked to one of the big guys there personally he said once the hemi stuff is done in january our controller is next because they are going to be using it on the gen 5 small block chevy. I can tell you on average your looking at 3 grand+ for a standalone setup. and thats a regular AEM one not an expensive ass motec. aslo with a turbo big enough to feed 1000 hp your going to seriously need to think about your valvetrain to handle over 9000 rpm and your going to need cams big enough to feed the engine. ZZP cams are 8-10 degrees bigger than stock.

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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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good luck with the build. im getting ready to start mine here next month most likely going with a s256et or a presion 5857

also i do remember ZZP advising not to port the head. they did have a ported head on their LNF for awhile then went back to a stock head

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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by blackvette101
precision makes a nice turbo too at the end most well designed 72mm turbos are going to move 90+ lb/min. the op seems to have a preferance for BW turbos so i tried to recomend something from that brand. what ci you running twin 72's on the maro.



Right now I would agree but don't sell the stock ecm short it just hasn't been fully unlocked. there are guys with the much less advanced E39 controller running into the 7's with LSx motors with just HPT. And i shot an informercial type thing on the speed channel for HPT and i talked to one of the big guys there personally he said once the hemi stuff is done in january our controller is next because they are going to be using it on the gen 5 small block chevy. I can tell you on average your looking at 3 grand+ for a standalone setup. and thats a regular AEM one not an expensive ass motec. aslo with a turbo big enough to feed 1000 hp your going to seriously need to think about your valvetrain to handle over 9000 rpm and your going to need cams big enough to feed the engine. ZZP cams are 8-10 degrees bigger than stock.
i still advise goint to a percision just like you did previously. bw makes good stuff but yeah idk just not for me.
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