no dealer is giving me a proper time to how long it will take to install....

2-3 hours.. 3- 5 hours...

I just went outside to see what needs to be done... not including the flash...

Should this not take more then 20 minutes? I think the thing that will take the longest is installing the lower tmap sensor "shitty spot"... unless I'm missing something???

Remove Upper TMAP
Install New TMAP
Splice 3 Wires
Plug In

Remove Lower TMAP
Install New tmap "take out that boss"
Splice 4 wires
Plug in

Flash...

Unless I'm looking at something so very very wrong

 

havent had mine installed yet but 2 friends have both had theirs done at 2 different dealers both charged 2 hours.

 

I was charged for two hours, however, they said it was the first one they ever did and it took them the better part of the day.

 

took mine 2 hours in my local area. I was the 2nd one the guy has done for the GMS1 and he has done an excellent job. No issues at all. if it takes them 3-5 hours they shouldn't be calling themselves mechanics.

 

2.25 hours and the small additional time was due to the tech taking the time to solder the connections individually then heatshrink the bunch (for each sensor) instead of using the crimps included with the kit. I was the first one he did, now onto his 4th or 5th and time is just shy of 2 hours.

 

Like most of the guys on here the fee is normally two hours. I don't know a dealer that doesn't charge a minimum of one hour shop time for ANYTHING. It goes into the shop it costs you one hour labor. PERIOD! Case closed! And MOST, if not all, charge a minimum of one hour for the use of the Tech2 diagnostic machine. The Turbo Upgrade ECU calibration comes direct from GM through the machine after the tech hooks it up and puts in whatever information he has to put in then GM pushes THEIR buttons, where ever it is that they're at, which costs the dealer a fee. I've been told whenever GM gets involved with a vehicle through the Tech2 it costs the dealer $50. hat's what I was told by TWO different dealerships after I got irate at the first one when the service writer told me about the $50 phone bill to GM. I told the service writer I wasn't going to pay for HER education and stormed out. Mine was the first request for the Upgrade Cal. Went to the second dealer and gave him the time to explain it to me and he did the install. Cost me two hours at flat rate. Now I can never go back to the first dealer. Embarrased by my behavior. Oh well!

 

its the same way with guys who do HPTuners who got to pay a $100 to them to unlock the PCM to work on them. HPTuners had it right in the market to earn ongoing income from the tuners.

 

2 hours for me and it was their second install. no problems and $175 CDN

 

My install was exactly this 4.5 hours or so they said 2 hour charge and stuck by it excellent service and they have earned exclusive rights to work on my car from now on nothing beats honesty and good old fashioned customer service in my books Palliser Chev Innisfail Alberta.

 

they must be the only ones like that no dealers here are like that at all

 

20 min? hell no.

Took me 3 hours to only install the sensors, taking my time and double checking. Its kind of easy to miss wire the sensors. If you have any wiring experience just install the sensors yourself, schedule a time at the dealer for the flash. Drive to dealer NOT IN BOOST, you wont throw a cel (if you do you probably miss wired it), have dealer flash and only pay a little bit of money.

 

3 HOURS???

Wiring experience or not... like I said I know i'm missing something.. as there is only 7 wires to splice...???

 

You try and get to the lower sensor wiring then, Speedy. Took me around 2 hrs start to finish with soldering & heatshrink. If you want to hack on some butt splices in a few minutes, go right ahead.

 

wow 3 hours.. it did take me 20mins cause the lower sensor was a bit of a pain not installing it but wiring it.. but i layed under the car to wire the bottom sensor.. top one was 5 mins bottom 15 (maybe) and i double checked and soldered every connection... then drove to delership and got a cel cause i pressed the gas a little too hard on a hill and went into boost... dealership charged me 75.00cad for reflash.. done and done save yourself alot of money and do it yourself.. instructions are very easy to follow...

 

I have an electrical/computer engineering background. I dont f around when it comes to wiring. I took my time, some beer, double checked hell triple checked before splicing, staggered the splices and wrapped them up in electrical tape; it looked better than stock. The top is done in minutes sure, but the bottom is a pita to get at, and has no real room to move your arms. Also tightening to spec is recommended as it isnt much inch/lbs.

 

lol were talking about 7 wires here... your engeneering backround dont really come into play.. flash around your degree somewhere it matters.. the bottom one you just have all wires twisted together and then stick your soldering iron in there heat the wire then touch the solder to it.. easy as pie.. your making people scared to do something that when they try it and are done theyd know they would have been stupid to pay a dealership 200 bucks to do this

 

that's all i wanted to here...I'm not sure if i will solder or crimp.... I'm sure I could just splice and twist the wires together lol "I won't do that, but it would work and take 10 seconds lol"

Since all the GMS1 is sensors.. could I not get the flash pre-install? Drive home do the install?

 

when did I say it was hard? How does that not relate to my background? Its not hard, I just stated the amount of time I took on install. If you have ever read any of my posts, I've recommended everyone to install their own sensors. Get off your muscle juice.

I just used the included butt splices in the kit. As long as you crimp it right they will last forever. I also recommend heat shrinking them (may not work with the butt splices) or use electrical tape to seal the crimps up. If you have the time/skill to solder, go for it, then a heat shrink tube will fit over the splice.

I also recommend staggering the splices so that they arent bunched up at one spot.

No you cant get the flash pre-done, it will CEL as it doesnt have the 3 bar sensors. Just schedule an appointment for a flash, should take like 10 min, they'll probably charge you 30-60 min labor.

 

Isn't there a "how to" somewhere?!?

 

don't think you need one as it comes with instructions with pics lol

 

Wow, I put the sensors on myself. Took me 20 minutes. I don't know how you can take much longer than that. I drove to the dealership and they charged me $80 to flash the ECU. Yes the CEL turns on, but it doesn't effect driving at all.

 

It took me an hour but that included about 20 minutes of looking for a torque wrench. I soldered all connections, used heat shrink, and electrical tape. Looks factory. If you use the splices they included it should take no time at all. No degree needed for this, so no need to be cocky about it.

 

[QUOTE=northvibe;5000595]when did I say it was hard? How does that not relate to my background? Its not hard, I just stated the amount of time I took on install. If you have ever read any of my posts, I've recommended everyone to install their own sensors. Get off your muscle juice.


haha no muscle juice! just saying you dont need no degree in electrical to do this... and it was the first thing you said in your post that you have a electrical/computer engeneering backround.. so i was wondering the kinda the same thing of your question but worded different... how does this relate to your engineering backround? is seven wires...

 

looks like you guys answered my question

 

which I said means I'm **** about how I do wiring and being precise.