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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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high flow cat vs no cat ss/tc

ok so i was just looking at a ss/sc thread on this but would like the tc guys' opinion

i am about to get a 3" catless downpipe from CIA and was wondering, how it would it sound having a 3" catless dp with stock exhaust...? any info/experiences/vids i will do a google search while i am waiting for responses
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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no cat for sure.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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what would the HP difference be between catted and non catted?
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by fredds-turbaltSS
what would the HP difference be between catted and non catted?
Depends on mods, but CIA flow-tested their high-flow cat, and it's more than enough for anything the stock turbo can produce. Either the high-flow or no cat at all should net you a decent gain in hp, but there is not a significant difference between the two. Just ask yourself how legal you want to be.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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not very? lol
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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So if you got a high flow cat, you would still be legal and pass emission testing? If so, why would GM put two cats on it if it could be legal with one high flow cat?
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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So if you got a high flow cat, you would still be legal and pass emission testing? If so, why would GM put two cats on it if it could be legal with one high flow cat?
Likely GM has to pass much stricker emissions testing than your local testing setup. When 2 cats are used, the closest one is for cold start emissions, and the other is for at temp emissions.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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go no cat

keep the catted stocker to swap in for inspection/emissions

only takes 30 mins or so to swap
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by glhs379
go no cat

keep the catted stocker to swap in for inspection/emissions

only takes 30 mins or so to swap
prob less for me cause i have multiple lifts availible
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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go no cat, None of my cars have them.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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hows the sound difference? Im also debating...and will most likley decide on which has the better sound. if its not a major difference then ill just go catted
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Its much louder without a cat. I went catless because all the do for emissions here is plug you in to obd2 and as long as there are no codes you're ok
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Boost Creep

Go With High Flow, Prevent Boost Crepp With That, Especially In The Winter, Unless You Port Your Wastegate Or Manually Control Boost Or Deadbolt The Turbo
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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Dude go catless.that's how I have mine.but its too loud but felt a difference and u can hear ur turbo spooling loud

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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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Catless? Think of the children...
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Catless? Think of the children...
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Old May 12, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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catless is fking loud lol
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Old May 12, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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Depends on mods, but CIA flow-tested their high-flow cat, and it's more than enough for anything the stock turbo can produce. Either the high-flow or no cat at all should net you a decent gain in hp, but there is not a significant difference between the two. Just ask yourself how legal you want to be.
I used to think that the highflow cat was good enough. Not anymore. Honestly, I felt no difference between the stock DP and the Hahn catted DP until I gutted the Cat. Now it spools up faster and it seems to pull better throughout the entire powerband. Still looks legal and no codes in 200 miles of driving. The biggest airflow difference in these cars is the intake by a huge amount trust me.
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