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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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Husky 94octane and the LNF ?

Anyone tryed the husky 94 octane ethanol blend in there ss-tc ?
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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I would stay away from ethanol in the direct injection system. If corrosion is a problem in normal fuel systems, it could become a much larger problem in a fuel system with tighter tolerances (direct injection).
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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I would stay away from ethanol in the direct injection system. If corrosion is a problem in normal fuel systems, it could become a much larger problem in a fuel system with tighter tolerances (direct injection).
How can you stay away when almost every gas station uses upto 10% ethanol?
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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If you don't have a choice then you take what you can get, I don't have it around me luckily
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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The 10-15% blends they use in most places won't corrode anything. Just stay away from anything with more eth than that.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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doesnt ethanol have different burn properties then gas?
like wouldnt it **** up your car if you werent tuned for it?
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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Ethanol has been debated for years... But I have seen some very convincing arguments that there is nothing wrong with running ethanol. (10% etc..)

And if it was bad, they would've put in the car's manual not to use it.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Greased
doesnt ethanol have different burn properties then gas?
like wouldnt it **** up your car if you werent tuned for it?
No, it has a lower energy content than gasoline & higher octane rating. It still goes boom, you just need to throw more into the cylinder to get the same effect.

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Ethanol has been debated for years... But I have seen some very convincing arguments that there is nothing wrong with running ethanol.

And if it was bad, they would've put in the car's manual not to use it.
Well its not E85 approved.

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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by krispy
No, it has a lower energy content than gasoline & higher octane rating. It still goes boom, you just need to throw more into the cylinder to get the same effect.



Well its not E85 approved.
Yah i edited I my post, I meant to say 10% levels of ethanol is acceptable, but definitely not e85
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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No, it has a lower energy content than gasoline & higher octane rating. It still goes boom, you just need to throw more into the cylinder to get the same effect.
it's for better MPG, kinda like wat the Cobalt XFE is, everywhere u turn ppl are gunna be lookin for better ways to increase MPG, we all gotta adapt to it. Hell, my Elantra even has an ECU that over time learns your driving and adapts itself to give a little better MPG......supposedly.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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it's for better MPG, kinda like wat the Cobalt XFE is, everywhere u turn ppl are gunna be lookin for better ways to increase MPG, we all gotta adapt to it. Hell, my Elantra even has an ECU that over time learns your driving and adapts itself to give a little better MPG......supposedly.
E85 doesn't result in higher MPG compared to gas, its actually significantly less (lower energy content). The difference is that it also costs significantly less at the pump and the largest factor is that it give car manufactures a huge improvement on CAFE rated mileage credits.

The reason you hardly see any Japanese makes doing it is because they don't have to to beat CAFE standards, they exceed them already. They sell far fewer trucks/SUV so they don't need to spend the money.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluebaltsc
it's for better MPG, kinda like wat the Cobalt XFE is, everywhere u turn ppl are gunna be lookin for better ways to increase MPG, we all gotta adapt to it. Hell, my Elantra even has an ECU that over time learns your driving and adapts itself to give a little better MPG......supposedly.
I don't know about that, but I do know for a fact, your Elantra's ECU has "Going to break down very soon" written in it.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by maxuniman
Anyone tryed the husky 94 octane ethanol blend in there ss-tc ?
dood i'd stick with Shell premium fuel, i'm sure huskey is good too but i hear more good about shell than huskey.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluebaltsc
it's for better MPG, kinda like wat the Cobalt XFE is, everywhere u turn ppl are gunna be lookin for better ways to increase MPG, we all gotta adapt to it. Hell, my Elantra even has an ECU that over time learns your driving and adapts itself to give a little better MPG......supposedly.
Re-read what krispy said though. Ethanol is weaker than gasoline thermodynamically. That means that it takes more of it to get the same power. That equals less mpg, not more.


Meh, everyone types too fast for me.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JPizzle
I don't know about that, but I do know for a fact, your Elantra's ECU has "Going to break down very soon" written in it.
lol not when u pull the negative off the battery and turn the key to on and push the brake to the floor once in awhile, ECU reset ftw, a few ppl have even wired a switch into the cabin so you dun gotta open the hood ect ect, i just keep a battery wrench in the car with me lol.

Originally Posted by XM15
Re-read what krispy said though. Ethanol is weaker than gasoline thermodynamically. That means that it takes more of it to get the same power. That equals less mpg, not more.
that all depends on your driving

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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Almost all gas today contains some amount of ethanol in it. The only place in my area that I can get 94 octane is Sunoco.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Another plus with E85 is its rediculous octane rating. I'm seeing more and more tuner cars getting set up to run it, and putting down insane numbers compared to their regular gas counter parts. It's like 110 octane race gas for 2 bucks a gallon.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluebaltsc
that all depends on your driving
You don't get it. If something has 100 kJ/kg energy density and the other has 80 kJ/kg energy density and you drive the same cycle, you will use more of the 80 kJ/kg fluid. That means you will be getting fewer miles per gallon and I don't know anyone that says, "OH LOOKS, I HAS FLUID WITH HIGHER ENERGY DENSITY, LETS DRIVE LIKE MADMAN!!!!"
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by krispy
You don't get it. If something has 100 kJ/kg energy density and the other has 80 kJ/kg energy density and you drive the same cycle, you will use more of the 80 kJ/kg fluid.
Maybe he means that if you drive your regular gas car like you stole it, and your E85 car downhill behind and draft behind a semi, you'll still get similar gas mileage.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomtwtwtw
Maybe he means that if you drive your regular gas car like you stole it, and your E85 car downhill behind and draft behind a semi, you'll still get similar gas mileage.
I edited my post above to reflect the idiocy of said argument.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by krispy
I edited my post above to reflect the idiocy of said argument.
Ha ha, I just noticed.

Well said.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by krispy
I edited my post above to reflect the idiocy of said argument.
so if E85 gets worse MPG why are we using it?
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluebaltsc
so if E85 gets worse MPG why are we using it?
it's cheaper than gasoline if you haven't noticed that throughout the post. It's also a renewable resource unlike fossil fuels.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluebaltsc
so if E85 gets worse MPG why are we using it?
1. It costs less
2. Its 'renewable'
3. Congress gives CAFE credits to the tune of 15% higher MPG to makers that have the engines E85 certified

no. 3 is the reason we have e85 vehicles, CAFE loophole/exploitation/utilization whatever you wish to call it
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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The 10-15% blends they use in most places won't corrode anything. Just stay away from anything with more eth than that.
thats right; for more ethanol than that, E85, the cars can run on it and then run on ordinary fuels they are designed that way, and the LNF and ALL GM vehicles can use 10% ethanol fuel no problem. The misinformation about 10% ethanol enhanced fuels is amazing what a bunch of c**p it wont hurt your engine at all... the ethanol actual is a form of gas line antifreeze in effect and drives out moisture in the gasoline preventing corrosion from any water content in the fuel. I and hundreds like me have been racing on Sunoco ethanol enhanced fuels since 1997 and there is NO Problem with it the ethanol in fact is an octane improver...
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