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i think my zfr is done

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Old 04-30-2016, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sev
Did you check the turbo drain by any chance.
Yes, it was good. What u find? Does ur new one smoke?
Old 04-30-2016, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tomj77
Yes, it was good. What u find? Does ur new one smoke?
Its exactly the same.
The car was lifted to replace the axles and the whole bottom of the car is baked in oil. The oil pours out of the push oil drain fitting when the car is in boost. Looking back from inside the car is just a cloud of blue smoke but recording from another car the smoke comes from under the passenger side.

Thats probably why there is no smoke at idle or driving slow.

The push fitting is pushed in all the way so I dont know why its leaking.
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Originally Posted by sev
Its exactly the same.
The car was lifted to replace the axles and the whole bottom of the car is baked in oil. The oil pours out of the push oil drain fitting when the car is in boost. Looking back from inside the car is just a cloud of blue smoke but recording from another car the smoke comes from under the passenger side.

Thats probably why there is no smoke at idle or driving slow.

The push fitting is pushed in all the way so I dont know why its leaking.
It's sounds like it's just a bad oring on the fitting. Or ur crank case is being pressurized which would be a plugged line somewhere. Blow into the fresh air pcv on intake and see if air comes out where it is connected to the turbo. I still got no clue what's up with mine. Only test I got left is put stock turbo back in, I'd it still smokes I'm just gonna get a ldk motor
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Turbo is coming off again to try and fix that line and see what happens.
Line came with the efr kit so lets see what can be figured out.
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well I'm back at square one, have exhausted every possibility other than valve seals and turbo, so, next weekend maybe I'm gonna pull the turbo and put stock back on and see what happens. then ill know for sure if its the turbo or the engine. if the turbo. 71 zfr it is, if the engine. possibly ldk with a 71 on it or get zzp to send me a built ldk.
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Seems like either way you win lol
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Originally Posted by Snail_SS
Seems like either way you win lol
My wallet doesn't agree lol.
Old 05-01-2016, 12:05 AM
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Lol I bet but then you'll forget about it when you drive the car
Old 05-01-2016, 01:14 AM
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I guess if I need new engine I'll need a lift to swap eh? Can't see it being done with jack stands .
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Originally Posted by tomj77
I guess if I need new engine I'll need a lift to swap eh? Can't see it being done with jack stands .
I was thinking that if you got it high enough and we're working on concrete, you could drop the whole cradle onto dollies and pull it out. I've also heard of some bringing it out of the passenger wheel well. I'm no expert, I'm sure others who have done it can comment.
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Taking crash bar off in the front apperently is how it's done
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well upon observation my car does seem to smoke while driving and at idle as well, just very little. I can smell it, and at idle I can see it, u have to look close, its not very much. but its there. while driving slow I can always smell the burning oil when the wind brings it my way or when I slow down.
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you guys think meth injection drys out the valve seals?
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Originally Posted by tomj77
you guys think meth injection drys out the valve seals?
If you only drove it with the meth on maybe. You only use it on pulls so I wouldn't think so. Lots of guys run meth and i don't hear it being a common problem. I bet it does keep your valves cleaner.
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tom have you contacted borg warner to see if they'll look at the turbo or if they recommend any local turbo suppliers/repair shops to check it out?

I know it's a royal pain in the ass to have to remove the turbo just to check things out and i'm not sure if you have a daily other than the cobalt
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
tom have you contacted borg warner to see if they'll look at the turbo or if they recommend any local turbo suppliers/repair shops to check it out?

I know it's a royal pain in the ass to have to remove the turbo just to check things out and i'm not sure if you have a daily other than the cobalt
Nope, and no I don't have another daily. I really need to get one. I can borrow one though. But after some testing today I almost positive it's the valve seals, I did a bunch of decelerating didn't really go into boost, just went up to about 0-5 psi and would let off for a while. Smoked like crazy. Think I'm needing a new motor or head at least.
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so I invented this ingenious way to test turbo seals with smoke machine, if that's how it works anyway. took out o2, so I could see smoke coming out if seals are in fact bad. well nothing came out. had a lot coming out the dipstick, which is normal since it would go to oil pan through oil drain, but if the seals were bad enough to let oil past, smoke should have come out the o2 sensor hole, so it would seem turbo is fine. my combustion chamber passed another leak down. my plugs don't looks oil fouled at all, so only place it would be leaking if all that good is the exhaust valve seals, which would leak into the exhaust manifold and skip combustion chamber. so damn. now to decide if I want a new engine. ldk, or just a new head. or I guess I could just replace the seals. which I could get a built one or just stay stock. don't really care for more power, so built probably not.

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so I did some experimenting, so I have narrowed it down more. if I leave my car idling and I blow into the pcv fresh air tube with my mouth, just a little, starts smoking. if I take oil cap off, starts smoking more. so......opinions?
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I would think valve seals, because the cap shouldn't have an effect on oil pressure at the turbo
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
I would think valve seals, because the cap shouldn't have an effect on oil pressure at the turbo
ya pretty sure its the seals. if I put smoke into the intake manifold, a small amount comes out the oil cap, no other way for smoke to come out the oil cap but through the seals. also I put some compressed air in by the nipple on the manifold, most of it escapes though the tb and intake system, but I can hear some squeezing past the seals. or at least one seal. to make sure I think next week ill take valve cover off again and smoke it again and see where the smoke comes out. if indeed the seals, I think ill attempt to change em. its a lot cheaper than a new head or engine. just need the tools .
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what would I all need besides the tools, seals, front cover gasket, rocker cover gasket, although I have reused those with no issues. new cam phaser bolts, anything else?
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So it's decided, I am buying a second vehicle, small ford ranger most likely, then parking the Balt in the shop and tearing the engine apart. Most likely building the head, possibly the block. Since its it will be apart anyway. Depends how the Pistons look I guess.
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I'm on that process myself, but looking for a 4dr daily to park the Balt and start to take apart
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Originally Posted by Snail_SS
I'm on that process myself, but looking for a 4dr daily to park the Balt and start to take apart
sounds like fun. I figured id go with a truck just in case I end up needing something that requires a truck lol. looked at an suv, but its a little to expensive. maybe ill look around a little more.
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I was thinking the same lol but I just don't see myself in a truck. I just can't find anything I like that's 4drs and within my budget


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