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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Intake now, or wait for Clear Image?

I am looking at intakes for the SS/TC, and I ran across TTR selling the Injen and Hahn for almost $300. I think that's about the cheapest price for a reputable brand intake, right?

However, in a thread by Clear Image they said that every other manufacturer of intakes for the Cobalt has had problems of one kind or another, and that they were taking the time to fix them all before they release their intake. I am waiting on pricing for their short ram intake, as I assume with as little to it as there is, that it would be quite a bit less then $300. I understand with a stock SS that any gains are small, and will be wiped out by the car's computers, so it is really just going to be for a nicer sound. I also don't understand the point in a "Cold Air," intake on a turbocharged car, because once the air hits the turbo, doesn't it get up to the 800+ degree temp anyways? So what is another 30 or 40 degrees from the engine bay?

I am very new to forced induction cars, this is actually the first one I have both owned and driven. I don't plan on going mod nuts on it, really all I want to do is some kind of intake, stiffer bypass spring, and a Trifecta tune. So, I really do think that the cheapest intake that doesn't mess up my car will be the best bet, which is why I keep waiting on Clear Image's, as they seem to have a pretty good reputation for good R&D and products around here. So what can anyone add to help make a decision? Whats the cheapest intake that won't mess up the SS? What price range can I expect the Clear Image to be at? Is it worth waiting for, or just go with one that's out already??
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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WAIT! Just trust me on this one. you want to wait. i didn't wait and got dejon's intake and I data logged after my tune and I have turbulence in my intake. No one has got the intake right so far so just wait
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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^^^hmm i find that intresting...everyone i see with the dejon short ram is only pulling a 2% error.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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any logs for the AEM's with the relocated MAF element?
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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ask dan from clear image. I believe he tested all of them
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 11:49 PM
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I would wait...
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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wait
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 12:29 AM
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so wait the computer will just void any small gains that the ntake gives anyways? will a tune fix that?
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 12:45 AM
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yeah the computer has a learn down feature which will not let the car go over its stock horsepower rating.....you need a tune to make power off your mods.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 02:39 AM
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i'd say wait for the K&N intake system to come out... they flow test all their intakes before they release them to the public, that's why i'm waiting for them
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by lecznar1
i'd say wait for the K&N intake system to come out... they flow test all their intakes before they release them to the public, that's why i'm waiting for them
Kinda like Clear Image will do for a good bit less ca$h?
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 04:06 AM
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I'm going to try this factory air box mod probably tomorrow. Just to help get by for now....

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lnf-performance-tech-153/factory-airbox-mod-163744/
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 06:11 AM
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Never mind...

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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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Wait!
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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I just did the factory airbox mod I mentioned in post #12. It was pretty easy and straightforward. It didn't take very long to do and only cost me a few dollars.

I'm tuned with K&N drop in and BPV spring upgrade. I'm not going to lie and say it was like night and day or something like that. But a difference was noticed.
I used to have a dead spot right around 6K rpm to 7K rpm where the rpm rise was noticeably slower. After the mod that dead spot is pretty much gone.

HUGE thanks to Matt who posted it!
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Zander916
I just did the factory airbox mod I mentioned in post #12. It was pretty easy and straightforward. It didn't take very long to do and only cost me a few dollars.

I'm tuned with K&N drop in and BPV spring upgrade. I'm not going to lie and say it was like night and day or something like that. But a difference was noticed.
I used to have a dead spot right around 6K rpm to 7K rpm where the rpm rise was noticeably slower. After the mod that dead spot is pretty much gone.

HUGE thanks to Matt who posted it!

It sounded interesting when I read it. I wish the stock air box was not an eye sore in the engine bay. I was thinking of ways we used to modify our stock air box on the Audi's and I imagine it would work just as easy in this car with the location of the factory airbox, but last weekend when I was looking at the engine bay for some cleaning, I just noticed how clean having the glossy black pipes looked in the engine bay, and how ugly the stock box setup looked. I'll stay w/ my Dejon for now, no issues thus far.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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Zero problems here with the Hahn CAI system on the 08' SS/TC, fits perfect, no CEL... Works awesome, it is my #1 choice.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted_Cobalt09
^^^hmm i find that intresting...everyone i see with the dejon short ram is only pulling a 2% error.
That was me who posted the 2% MAF error. That was found while tuning the car. Stock airbox has 1% MAF eror so it is almost like stock. He had a loose connection where the hose fits on the intake which caused turbulance around the MAF and a skewed reading. I have zero issues with my intake and my car has been thoroughly tested on the dyno and the street since I added the intake.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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^^^^ Not too fond of the attachment for the hose on the intake either. I added a wrap of self vulcanizing tape (Scotch 130C) over the connection just to make sure it's sealed and won't pull off.

Dejon could have made the flange for the MAF sensor different too. I don't like the mounting screws pulling down on the flange of the MAF with no spacers under it. (~1/8" gap between the MAF ears & the mount)) I put some RTV on the screw threads to keep vibration from backing them out.

No CEL's or performance issues though.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Any word on a release date for the CIA intake?
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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an intakes an intake. just pick one.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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I don't believe it. I think clear image is actually doing the most research. Not dissing anyone elses product, but they are learning from other people's mistakes, and i think they will come out with a superior product. Considering price, I may go with them.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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meaning you think they are going to make more power? all intakes are going to net about the same power. its been proven a million times...ive had my hahn intake for thousands of miles no problems. What do you think this intake is going to do for you that others wont?
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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meaning you think they are going to make more power? all intakes are going to net about the same power. its been proven a million times...ive had my hahn intake for thousands of miles no problems. What do you think this intake is going to do for you that others wont?
The biggest thing is that I want a short ram, just because it can rain alot here, and i don't want to water log my intake. Second is the recirc connection. I want it to be reliable, and I am not ready to move to a BOV. Also, the MAF error and turbulence is a big problem. Hopefully CIA figures that out.

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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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The biggest thing is that I want a short ram, just because it can rain alot here, and i don't want to water log my intake. Second is the recirc connection. I want it to be reliable, and I am not ready to move to a BOV. Also, the MAF error and turbulence is a big problem. Hopefully CIA figures that out.[/QUOTE]





fair enough.

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