Honestly an atmospheric BOV is not as bad as all these people say. If anyone on here remembers vernon (boostking) he had an atmospheric BOV and logged it and it went rich for .01 seconds after shifting. thats right .01 seconds. But all these people that think BOV's are the devil will think what they want to think. Guarantee these people that talk bad about them have absolutly no proof of these, "horrible conditions" they speak of. I have a BOV on my car, have for 25,000 miles now and ZOMG it's still fine. And i am a worry wart when it comes to my car. I watch my interceptor gauges constantly.

 

the guy asked some questions about what he needs to run a atmospheric BOV. He didn't ask for anyones opinions on the matter. I don't get why people always have to hop in these threads and post dumb ****. Its HIS car. Leave it be. Answer his questions or gfto...simple

 

You first.

 

Actually if you look at the first post he asked what the best BOV for ours car is. That actually is an opinion question as none are really better than the other. Just a matter of personal preference. And it's a forum douche, we try to help each other out

 

me first what? gtfo? How bout I answer his questions with a post...

so it turns into a bitch fest...douche? You people wonder why people hate this site...cause theres always gota be a smart ass.

This a bad ass BOV huh? Real helpful...thats the **** I'm talking about

 

People hate this site because of to many high school girl problem threads, to many database errors, and a lack of mods to control people like you.

 

people like me? Tell me smart guy...what "kinda person" am i?

 

you're the kinda guy that puts dumb mods on their car, knows absolutely nothing about this car, and should really not talk if you don't know what you're talking about. kthanxbye

 

So we should just tell the guy that BOV's on these cars are fine?? After explaining that they cause the car to run improperly, he might have second thoughts about installing one. Thats the advantage of posting on a forum, other people inform you of things you might not otherwise know.

There is no "dumb ****" being posted, only things that are important to the performance and longevity of his vehicle.

Installing an atmosphere vented BOV on a car with a MAF system is STUPID and will cause issues whether you believe it or not. You can watch your wideband gauge all day, the issues aren't so much with the actual A/F as they are with the CALCUALTED A/F. The PCM measures a certain amount of incoming air (based on density, hence the term "Mass") and then that air never reaches the engine. So the wideband A/F reports a lean condition. The PCM in turn richens up the mixture, and begins to modify the fuel trims because it thinks it can't trust the MAF. It could even lead to a MAF diganostic code if you drive around venting measured air long enough. Eventually if will throw a "Range/Performance" code for the MAF. And these people will be the first to come on here bitching and calling this car a "POS" because it throws a code.

 

so i have had no codes, no misfires except at startup which has nothing to do with this, no knock retard, and have had it like this 25,000 miles. I understand you are on the bandwagon with the , "ZOMG it's not running right and going to blow up theory" but the FACT is it is working. Im sorry if you don't want to believe it but i have it this way and obviously you do not so i think i will take my word over yours

 

dumb mods? like what...ohhh, you must be talking about the ps2 huh? yea thats sooooo 2005 huh? Yea...ok, what else? Hmm...I don't have anything on my car anyone else doesn't have...You don't know **** about me mother ******. So how the **** would you know I know nothing about my car? Have you EVER...talked to me? Nope. Grow the **** up.."k thanks bye" whata you 12?

No I'm not saying that. I'm all for informing people on whats up and what's best for their car. Its the way people go about it and they people act like they are greater than God sometimes...

"BOV? no you don't need that. Just take off the intercooler piping and run it open. That way it's much louder. Also take off the exhaust manifold so your exhauts is louder " <--is what I was mostly talking about. Why is that nesscessary. Like I said, I'm all for the info you are putting out. I've learn things from this site and thats why I read post like this. That all I was getting

 

I bet your LTFT's are skewed. just sayin

 

yes my fuel trims are off but mostly because of the intake that i haven't had a chance to tune for yet. I plan on doing that very soon

 

Do what you want. Some things are just plain wrong, and running a BOV/MAF is one of them.

I've seen people do all kinds of things wrong that "still work". Things like running non-hub centric wheels spacers, not torquing critical bolts, installing clutches without replacing flywheels, ect. I could name a hundred things. The bottom line is it will catch up with you sooner or later, if you shouldn't be doing something a certain way there is always a reason.

 

Slowbalt is full of ******* comments...its unbelievable. I dont understand why someone with that kind of attitude would come onto a public forum... whats the point if you clearly dont know how to converse with other people without being an ass. Im sure hes just some miserable idiot that tries to make himself feel better by giving people a hard time about pointless ****.

To the OP, as others have said clearimage auto is selling a kit that has everything you need for an atmospheric BOV setup including a special tune by Vince from Trifecta to tune your car for it. If you do go with the BOV the tune is a must IMO.

 

lol love you too

 

Answer to post, Contact Clear Image Automotive, pick out the bov YOU LIKE, and don't listen to all these thread hijackers and whiners.

 

tials the only way to go if your getting a bov with hks being a close second. tial is hands down the best performance bov with the correct spring.

 

thats why i purchased it and gave it to dan

 

I know I don't have any ******* problems. My car still runs fune. Yea, ok, my MAF and my A/F may be skewed a little bit, but who's car ******* isn't??? Are you serious? Anybody with an intake is skewing their MAF & A/F. Anybody with a damn K&N Drop-In Air Filter is skewing their MAF. How about you get onto their ass and tell then they don't know how a MAF system works. I guess I have no clue how a MAF system works. :shrugs: But I just don't give a ****. Any that's fine with me. I will run my car how I want to, and I will be blowing past you, and blowing off right in your ******* window!

I guess I'm a BOV fanboy. Oh, and a ricer at that. And I don't give a Flying **** what Trfecta says. Or even Dan for that matter. They are trying to sell a pipe (MAF Relocation) with as they said doesn't do jack ****. Taking people's money when they know damn well, it doesn't do ****. Whatever, it's their own money.

I guess I should have bought a SRT-4, or a 1.8L Turbo VW Jetta. But I know for a fact! That a loud BOV does NOT add any power, and I'm perfectly fine with that. Oh, and I think that I am pretty fast. At least to me it seems fast. Whatever, I'm annoying.

No, I don't think I MUST VTA, I want to. And yea I'm cool.

BOV's are the devil. Oh, and I cracked a piston running my BOV VTA. :O I didn't, but some of the above asshats think it's that bad, they just might have believed me.
I'm a ricer, and I'm fine with that.

Thank-you SlowBalt. A man with ******* facts.

And that's your opinion jackass. I have mine.

 

^^^ wow, taking this a little personally are we?

When you start logging your car, then come in with some facts. Until then, you have none, other than the fact that your car goes ::sswwooosshhh:: when you shift.

Seriously, there is no battle needed here. You like your BOV.. Fine.. Us that realize the disadvantages/down sides of running a atmospheric BOV on these cars with the stock turbo are only trying to spread knowledge, not ignorance.

Man, ignorance really is bliss apparently

 

I have no idea whether or not it will mess things up with fuel trims or what have you or what everyone is saying as I have no proof...nor have I seen anyone post proof...all I know is that they are annoying. What does a louder BOV do? It simply screams "Hey everyone look I have a turbo!!!"...problem is...the only person that cares is the guy driving the car (possibly other enthusiasts...but odds are they could simply look at your car and tell, if they are savvy enough, and don't need an audible alert). I'm sure that if instead of a BOV making a loud "pshhh" noise or whatever, if it actually screamed out the words "Hey I have a turbo!!"...nobody would want them...unfortunately they make that "cool" Fast and the Furious noise. And I'm sorry JPizzle nothing against you at all as a person I'm sure you're a cool guy...I just really genuinely hate loud BOVs as they serve no real purpose other than telling people you're turbocharged.

/rant

 

ppl need to get a grip honestly, I got a BOV and **** sounds nice, no problems, nothing, runs exactly the same as with stock Bypass. Just make sure you get a delete plate so it gets rid of a check engine light code # p2261 and ur all set.

 

As if I really care about you blowing past me with your stupid blow off valve

Seriously dude, you some extremely immature. You are probably 17 years old. You think that just because your BOV "sounds cool" and you car still runs, then everyone is wrong by telling you its not proper. You have a lot to learn.

Jackass?? You are the one who doesn't even understand how electronic engine controls work, and you're calling other people names. You try and help someone, and they act like a child.

Its people like you that give CSS drivers a bad name, you are a typical know-nothing punk kid. And that's too bad, because you could have learned something. Instead, you're just mouthing off and basking in your own pathetic ignorance.

 

Hmmm. I don't have a block-off-plate, and I don't have any engine codes.

Listen up newb. You haven't been here for a while, and that's ok. You might have seniority later on down the road. But that is the 1st time that I have ever been called immature on here, and I have been here for quite a while. And for the record, I'm 21 years old. So I'm not a "kid" or a "child."
I don't know everything about cars, or electronics, or whatever. All's I know is that my car SEEMS to be fine. And until I hear some real facts, pictures, videos, etc, then that will be opinion. I am willing to learn, please teach me. And I have been around long enough, and brought in countless numbers of new members to the site, I tend to think that I don't give CSS drivers a bad name.

So now please, enlighten me. Show me pictures/videos and explain why a BOV VTA is such a bad idea.