Stamina

This started as a random funny thought I had... but then I was like, you know what, it may work.

Who here is interested in buying forged pistons sometime soon that would be interested in going in on a group buy?

We'd need to go to approach one of our vendors or possibly Wiseco about this but it may be something that would be good business for venders and good for us for getting things fixed once and for all while saving some money.

Post up if you're interested and let's get a feel for what kind of interest we're looking at.

BlackMamba08

i think Turbo tech racing needs to get in this thread and be the one to have the group buy. I am down for it but i have to get the ol' tax return back.

BYT*SS*TURBO

iTrader: (6)

Doesnt seem TOO common with only a couple people responding to the broken piston thread...

Stamina

I assume there are people that want to go forged anyway or avoid having to rebuild their engines multiple times due to failed pistons with no warranty (GMS1 excluded).

BYT*SS*TURBO

iTrader: (6)

I realize people would want a GB anyway. I think we should stop saying common issue until it proves that it is tho.. It's making people paranoid for no real reason. If it was a REAL common issue, there would be a TSB.

Stamina

Ok. When I get back to a real computer I'll see if I can't reword the title a bit.

BYT*SS*TURBO

iTrader: (6)

Thanks

BlackMamba08

i just want forged because im sure these cast ones dont like the nitrous

09CobaltSS1

cast? I'm pretty sure they are hypereutectic not cast.

Leveecius

I'll be getting in on this. I don't want a blow out with 24psi on a 3076. I'm definately down on this.

BlackMamba08

then you would be wrong. hypereutectic has nothing to do with if it's cast or forged. our pistons are a hypereutectic CAST aluminum/silcon

cardelino18

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IM IN!!!!! count me in i would love to!

Stamina

Ok, so far that makes four of us.

Anybody else interested?

I probably should've started this thread a few weeks ago. I heard a few local guys were planning on going forged, but probably have all ordered by now.

SSlobalt

Like the TSB for the rear brakes? Oh wait........

BYT*SS*TURBO

iTrader: (6)

Look how long the brake thread is, then compare to the piston thread. /discussion.

fosterSS

I was just about to order some untill I saw ur thread I'm dedffinally down for it. Let me know asap

mkriebs

Do people know the con's to after market pistons? Like the fact they aren't as reliable as stock ones? Sure, they won't break, but the tolerances are much different, and are not good for stock applications. How bout just making sure you get tuned by a reputable tuner? Seems much cheaper than $600 worth of pistons, and $1k worth of labor.

I'm sorry, but I hate that this forum is so misled and misinformed. People need to look at the fact that 0.01% of LNF Cobalts out there have had a fault with their pistons. Yeah, it would be nice to have the piece of mind with the Wiseco's, but I think the tradeoffs for having those nice pistons is ridiculous for a stock/tuned setup.

I bet 99% of the people here don't seafoam their intake either, do they?

Case in point (from Mustang and Ford Magazine):

"As with connecting rods, we have to ask ourselves how the engine will be used when it comes to cast versus hypereutectic versus forged pistons. Cast and hypereutectic pistons are ideal for engines that witness a lot of street use with the occasional weekend dragstrip visit. Forged pistons are suggested whenever the revs are expected to be high. Forged pistons expand at a different rate than cast and hypereutectic, which means they are sometimes noisy when cold. Cast and hypereutectic pistons are both cast-aluminum pieces. The hypereutectic piston has a higher silicon content for rigidity. It can take a greater pounding than a cast piston and is cheaper than forged."

TurboTechRacing

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We can run a group buy on them for everyone, we would need aroun 5 members to get it going, ready to purchase right away, at the same time.

Stamina

It looks like right now we've got 4, with a 5th waiting on their tax return...

Gabi

this include lsj pistons?

mkriebs

And no one listens to me. Whatever. I'm getting used to it around this site. The select few people who actually know stuff get ignore 90% of the time, in favor of the people that stir up the fear. Its all cool though. I'll go push my 500hp on my stock pistons... and you can spend your $600 on forged pistons and enjoy the ping when the engine's cold.

SSlobalt

That was just what I was saying: there are plenty more people complaining about the rear brakes, but there's still no TSB.

I don't know why anyone would bother until a piston got scrapped anyway.

mkriebs

Well, I can see if you are actually RISKING the life of the piston... like, say, pushing 450-500whp. Before that though, there is no need with a decent tune.

SSlobalt

I completely agree. There's only a select few pushing over 400hp, right?

mkriebs

Yeah, a very select few. I mean, ZZP has pushed the limits, and i will be joining them next season at ~500whp. I see no problems with what they did, except the rods starting to bend. I think people see this as a bling factor, which is their choice, but I think they need educated on what forged pistons act like.

They are noisy on cold starts, they leak oil around the rings, the rings don't last as long... I mean, thats alot of tradeoffs for someone's DD.