From what i'v heard from a people on here and even a vendor or 2 we dont need to really replace the cold side.. I Was going to go with the injen hot side if anyone can provide enough evidence that i really don't have todo the cold side

my plans for the car is

Intake (Injen already)

Catless or Catt'd DP..

Charge Piping (upper + lower??)

Custom 3" Cat-Back

and a Dyno Tune

trying to keep her the daily driver and keep my camaro

 

I personally would say it's not mandatory, only because I talked to a shop who tested both the HHR SS and Cobalt SS piping on a flow bench vs. both their own prototype charge piping and one currently on the market and found the results negligible.

I think there was a 3-4 difference in CFM between all three. Now of course, there maybe other reasons to purchase is other than airflow (upgraded intercooler perhaps, stock pipe durability vs aftermarket under higher boost, etc.)

 

i have the cold side done. the stock OEM pipe was rubbing slighty somewhere. u might want to check that.

go catless if ur getting tuned.

 

i wouldnt switch the cold side for the fact that the MAP sensor is located there and the map sensor has a tendincy to go on our cars (i speak from experience). and having anything aftermarket touching that sensor might make GM a little heistant on giving you a new one.

 

I changed my cold side and for the pain and hassle you will go through it isn't worth it.... There isn't really any difference between the aftermarket piece and the stock piece and the fitment is tight. If you go through with the aftermarket piece, there is a good chance that you will scratch the powder coat finish off in places....

 

you honestly do not have to change the cold side pipe. stock ones just fine. my new pipes came with a cold side and thats the only reason im switching.

 

cold side isn't necessary. They flow good as is and are a bitch to change.

 

says the guy who bought one!!!

 

So with all of this being said, How long does it take to put on the hot side piping?

Can you do it without taking of your front bumper?

 

I didn't buy cold side. I bought hot only .... fail

 

awww...I failed. So Rally wasnt refering to you when he wanted to take a look at my cold side piping to see how hard it would be to change cause hes doing a friends car soon?

 

haha .... nope, not me. I'm hot side only .

to answer questions, it takes about 1.5 hours or so with 1-2 people

 

who sells the pipes separate?

 

Clear Image, Injen, Dejon (maybe) .... they all usually do

 

I discovered a very easy way to position the cold side when I did mine. Whenever you take out the stock hot side (and before you put in the new hot side), route the cold side down the opening and across the front of the engine. That's seriously all there is to it. No need to try squeezing it in from below or the side or anything else. It makes it a piece of cake.

I took off the bumper when I did the CPs, but looking back I didn't have to.

 

thanks for the info looks like I might get the turbo to throttle body one today. I'm afraid the stock piece is going to blow apart

 

The hotside pipe is very easy to replace. I believe we picked up around 6whp on our SS/TC. You don't really need to change the cold side unless you just want a better looking pipe. I went 12.1 in our LNF with the stock coldside pipe.

 

How exactly would you take off the stock lower CP and install the new one without taking the bumper off? Just wondering since I only did the hotside and was debating on cold side. Not worth it to me if the bumper needs to come off. Unless you just buy a new IC and lower CP and do it all at once!

 

That's good news. How much time we talking here? 1-1.5 hrs to change hot side?

 

yup!

 

The coldside pipe is fairly good size that's why saw no need to replace it.

It depends on how you are going to change the pipe. If you use the stock rubber connectors it might take an hour because the stock t-bolt clamps are fixed so you have to cut them off but if you are using all new pc's I would think only about a half hour. It's fairly straight forward. Not a bad gain for such a small amount of work. Plus that stock pipe is def. not pretty.

 

Speaks the truth on that. Who wants to see some big plastic tube?!? Not me.

 

i think stoners made our charge piping. both hot side and cold side.

 

Really nothing wrong with the cold side IMHO. The radiator support bolts can rub holes in the coldside though. I took mne off and ground down the ends a lttle so there is clearance.

 

mine clears nicely with the CIA cold side. we double checked everything.

me
Hatrickstu.
Rootbeer
and LS1FBODY.

i treated them all to lunch for the SOB 2 hour job Cold Side. lol