So I found a post on the local forums about a dealer now selling Shell URT Race Fuels. He claims that people are making over 100hp more on URT than C16 due to the higher resistance to knock and ability to add more timing and boost...I pmed the dealer and am gonna find out what a 55 gal drum costs. If its under 300 this might be worth it as it won't require 30% more fuel as ethanol does which could mean 550whp lnfs on just cams.

 

180* of timing advance brah.

 

subd

 

Nice.

I'll be watching this.

 

A larger turbo and supporting mods as well of course to reach 550whp.

 

na.... stock turbo, bolt ons, trifecta Shell URT tune--> dust UR Lambos

 

Welp, bad news. Just got a PM from the dealer. $744 for a drum of it. Definitely not worth it guys, my apologies if I got your hopes up! That equates to about $13 a gallon, around the same price as C16.

 

this lambo?

 

That one especially!

 

i was thinkinn more like this one...

 

Not so bad. I paid around that for 112 unleaded but in 4 gal cans. It would be cheaper if I buy by the drum of course I think around $680. This is the reason I have to mixed with 94.You guys are lucking for paying peanuts for race fuel. Lol...

 

550 whp LNFs on just cams? Yeah no. LNFs do not like that much timing either even on full E-85. You can run 30* of advance without knock but it is pointless as you are way past MBT timing.

 

He is on a s256 with heads (iirc) and cams with the fuel lobe. He is saying that using the race gas wih that combo will yield 550whp rather than using e85 and requiring 30% more fuel. So he wont need the 5th injector or any other additional fueling mods

 

He running a mustang engine or something????

 

? Mustangs are the only cars that can some power?

 

Ok that would have been helpful for him to mention. Even with cams and non ethanol based fuel at 500+ whp a 5th injector would be ideal because I have seen a little 2871 turbo LNF at 26-27 lbs can get some injection window misfire in the higher RPMs on just pump gas forget E-47. It holds rail pressure but IPW is longer than injection window so fuel is being injected on the compression stroke which causes a misfire and power loss.

 

Look at the posts. I later stated that would be on a larger turbo and supporting mods as well.

 

same price as C16 but better. still an option.

 

Not flaming just poking fun cause he said "Heads" instead of head

Back on topic though I would buy the stuff instead of c16

 

I have a LNF down here running 100% e85 and made a little over 500whp on 25psi without zzps fifth injector. Its tuned for 30psi on the street and almost never gets a misfire due to the injection timing. Usually gets one or two when it lights up the tires in second gear and it taps rev limiter at 7200 but thats about it.

 

that's awesome man!! it has the cams tho? what turbo setup?

 

What elevation are you at? Cause I don't know that many people that run full e85 without 5th injector or other fuel increase. I would love to see you your tune file.

 

Yes ZZP cams with fuel lobe. Its a AGP turbo. about the size of the zzp s256ext but with a larger exhaust side and dual ball bearing. Its ryan salazan's build on here, you can check it out. I would like to test some c16 and E85 mix in his car to see what we could get out of it. C16 is like $14.00 A gallon down here.

 

We are at sea level. We have gotten up to 27psi with just the fuel lobe on 100%E. Thats where it would start to show some flat spots in fuel pressure, but still building. After that we put his meth kit back on and changed the way boost came in along with some injection timing. Fuel pressure steadily increases through the entire pull now.

 

this just made me lmao