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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Stock mode vs Competition Mode Dyno?

Anyone done a comparison on the two modes? Just curious , cause the balt seems to be more aggressive in the comp mode. Seems to come alive sooner than when out of it. My first thought that is they are the same, but my butt dyno says differently. Anyone see if there is a timing change or any difference at all between the modes. Or is it just a placebo effect?
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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bump i deff get the same feeliing very curious because i think it just might be the placebo effect but who knows.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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bump i deff get the same feeliing very curious because i think it just might be the placebo effect but who knows.
Absolutely no difference. I did my car with traction off and tried comp mode, and the numbers were identical.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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dang.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chandler
dang.
The car does not store two seperate tunes. Comp mode just has the launch control function. You can NLS in any mode (traction control off) or it will ruin your fun.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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The only difference I feel is (of course the suspension) & the handling capabilities... And of course whether your car cuts power or not (TRACTION).

But also, I have realized that the clutch engages in different places depending if Competetive Mode is activated or not...
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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competition mode does nothing for suspension or handling capabilities, our shocks are not electromagnetic or pneumatic, clutch engagement is also not affected, all in your head bro
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Umm.......you have to dyno in "ESC OFF" mode or else your ABS will screw up the dyno. You shouldn't dyno in Normal or Comp modes.

Originally Posted by MaxVQ35DE
competition mode does nothing for suspension or handling capabilities, our shocks are not electromagnetic or pneumatic, clutch engagement is also not affected, all in your head bro
And yes it does affect handling, not suspension, but just the cornering etc. There is a different setting for stability control in the Competition Mode vs normal mode.

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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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right but it doesnt change damping or rebound, compression rates etc, juts lightens up the nanny
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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right but it doesnt change damping or rebound, compression rates etc, juts lightens up the nanny
Exactly, but that will change how the car responds when cornering. It's not like the Audi sporttrac or whatever.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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I am almost always in NORMAL mode.


what do you all use the modes for if you do use them ?
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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TC off is good for snow, i use comp mode a lot it allows a lot more action before the ESC kicks in, and it enables launch control. This is also the prefered mode for NLS. The ESC off mode i have only used in parking lots full of snow having a lot of fun. you have to hold the button for about 7 secs and thats annoying especially where comp mode is pretty forgiving.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 01:17 AM
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But to reitterate, you can ONLY dyno in ESC Off mode.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
The car does not store two seperate tunes. Comp mode just has the launch control function. You can NLS in any mode (traction control off) or it will ruin your fun.
You are correct there is only one tune.


Ive personally had mixed results using NLS in other modes. With just traction control off, I will occasionally get a misfire during a NLS that triggers the Check engine light (flashing), backs off the power drastically, then recovers a second later.

Obviously with traction control on (in Normal mode) NLS is killed by the TC, because it detects the wheel spin and tries to put a stop to it.

Ive never had the misfire issue when in Comp mode doing a no lift shift.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
But to reitterate, you can ONLY dyno in ESC Off mode.
Why is that steve? I did mine with the traction control off and we had no issues.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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Why is that steve? I did mine with the traction control off and we had no issues.
Weird...in mine, unless I has the ESC all the way off, the car thought it was going off a cliff and started pulsing the ABS to regain control. Car started shaking like it was in the hands of a 3 year old.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Tomtwtwtw
Weird...in mine, unless I has the ESC all the way off, the car thought it was going off a cliff and started pulsing the ABS to regain control. Car started shaking like it was in the hands of a 3 year old.
Mine did not do that at all with just traction control off. No weird issues at all.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Why is that steve? I did mine with the traction control off and we had no issues.
Stability Control will start locking the brakes to make the fronts match the back.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
Stability Control will start locking the brakes to make the fronts match the back.
I dont think my car did that at all though I was sitting in the car and I think I would have felt the brakes engaging. I think when you turn off the traction controll it turns off that ABS function because even with ESC off your cars ABS still functions it just does not brake the front wheels because it thinks they are spinning.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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I dyno'ed mine in normal mode and the dyno was fine....? Not one blip.... Guess I will have to go back and try again. My dyno chart is floating around here in several places , one can take a look at it to see.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
I dont think my car did that at all though I was sitting in the car and I think I would have felt the brakes engaging. I think when you turn off the traction controll it turns off that ABS function because even with ESC off your cars ABS still functions it just does not brake the front wheels because it thinks they are spinning.
I didn't say anything about ABS. ABS only works while the brake pedal is depressed. I was talking about Stability Control.

Were you guys using a dynojet?
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DGAF260
TC off is good for snow, i use comp mode a lot it allows a lot more action before the ESC kicks in, and it enables launch control. This is also the prefered mode for NLS. The ESC off mode i have only used in parking lots full of snow having a lot of fun. you have to hold the button for about 7 secs and thats annoying especially where comp mode is pretty forgiving.



Normal Mode

Comp Mode

ESC Off

I have never held the button down for 7 seconds like you said..

I just push the button once to get to all three modes.

What happens after you hold it down for 7 seconds?
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BowTieTillIdie
Normal Mode

Comp Mode

ESC Off

I have never held the button down for 7 seconds like you said..

I just push the button once to get to all three modes.

What happens after you hold it down for 7 seconds?
It shouldn't say ESC OFF until you've held the button down.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
I didn't say anything about ABS. ABS only works while the brake pedal is depressed. I was talking about Stability Control.

Were you guys using a dynojet?
Nope loaded Dynocom dyno. traction off thats it.

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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Nope loaded Dynocom dyno. traction off that it.
I wonder why the dynocom would be different as far as stability control goes. I am familiar with the dyno type since I've used them in Houston.
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