does anyone here have the setup they offer or know anyone who does..just PM if you do i have a few questions about it.

thanks.

 

i have all but the turbo kit. I believe a guy by the name of "stagezero" has their turbo kit. Hes on cardomain also.

 

stagezero has it... but doesn't make much more power (he's lower than some of us!) but I think its in the tuning not the kit itself!

 

The synapse kit claims insane numbers. im looking to put down 300hp to the wheels with this car. im new to turbo charged cars with this being my first one. im also looking at some stuff from hahn racecraft. the last thing i want to do it use poor quality parts on my car. just need some insight to help point me in the right direction to get to my goal of 300whp

 

Tune alone can put you at 300whp. I'd get a catless DP too though.

 

Good tune alone on a stock car can net you over 300whp. Get a tune first, then your bolt ons... stay away from intakes... and you'll be fine!

 

thanks. intake was one thing i was iffy on. herd of people throwing all kinds of codes and plus where i live it rains...alot as of lately and i dont want to run the risk of sucking up water

 

tune + catless d/p + stock airbox =

 

im getting my tune over the winter..more then likely going with hahn racecraft PPC tuner. would it be just as well to do with there Down pipe?. i was talking to badbalt about running a down pipe and im going to use a catless one. anything i should know about the Hahn one or is there a better one on the market? im after reading about some problems with some cracking and i want to avoid that. dont know if it was a random case or if its a common thing with the ZZPperformance dp.

 

stock airbox with K&N filter, or do the airbox mod. But the tune is the single biggest performance gain you will get for the money!

 

air box mod? herd of it but never seen a pic.

 

check ZZP's threads.... they have one for it!

 

I would suggest you get the mods you want and THEN the tune. Have a goal for your car or you will KEEP spending $$. Research how people are getting the numbers you want then make your purchases. Good advice here for your goal , just get your mods , then tune, you want to tune to optimize your mods

 

thanks for the help guys.

i was under impression that if i got the modds befor a tune the computer would dial back the power to the stock 260 and the money i spent would of ended up being a waste

 

It will. Without a tune, you will always see 260/260, that's what the computer's target is. It's not really a waste of money buying all sorts of parts first, but don't expect ANY gains unless you get a tune.

Learn down is a bitch.
'nuff said.

 

Thats about retarded.... Why spend money for the car to make NO power untill you tune. Being under the impression you have to get ALL parts before a tune...

ONLY parts effecting PRE MAF airflow really require tuning... so intakes are a BIG yes charge pipes kinda mess with things for a bit but it will relearn itself.

Tune first... most of us tuners don't charge for reflashes!

 

I say tune first as well mainly because none of it matters until you tune.

Nothing is going to give you the gain a tune will

 

Hell getting a tune on this car is like making it a whole new car... it's really crazy. Not even the LSJ's feel as drastically different as the LNF with a tune!

 

Not as retarded as going back again and again for every little mod. You do it your way and enjoy throwing $$ out the window.

This is why I said have a PLAN for your car, get the parts you need to make desired performance and then tune the car with the mods. Or you can just keep buying parts and hope that the car will level out around where you want. But hey do it your way.

 

I did do it my way... I am a tuner so it doesn't matter. But I have done PLENTY of tunes on stock cars... they add new parts and very little and in some cases NOTHING had to be changed.

If you want to drop $1k on parts to still make 260 be my guest... while the rest of the stock cars blow past ya with tunes!

And obviously you do not read well... so I'll say it again. ONLY PRE-MAF parts require tuning. Throwing a catback on a car isn't going to change anything! LOL

 

Seriously 99% of the site would be happy with a tune.

A lot of people here, mod just to mod.

Really the only mods you 'need' to tune for are an intake and maybe charge piping.

That's it.

 

With this car get the tune first or don't bother. If he goes with the ppc tuner it doesn't matter what he puts on his car post tune, there is no fine tuning. I would go for the GM tune before the ppc, but would recommend HPT or Trifecta. If he only wants 300hp he will be setting in the area with just a tune alone. Throw a cat-less downpipe in the mix and fine tuning will yield a little more HP but not much. Everyone has there own way, these are just my opinions.

 

I know the learn down feature , thanks.
If nothing has to be changed , why put it on the car.
I kan Reed Jusssst Fighne!!!

Only PRE-MAF parts require tuning?!! ok ... if you say so ... your the "tuner".

 

Yep.

Plain and simple.

These cars don't get much easier to tune.

 

He is saying tune a car and then throw a down pipe on it and dyno it. Then take the same car tune it for the down pipe and there where be no more power to made with the tune. What do you mean by " if nothing has to be changed, why put it on the car"? Do you know why you put a full exhaust on a car, and what it does?