Trifecta Budget Tune
07-13-2012, 08:06 PM
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Trifecta Budget Tune
Not sure if you guys are aware that we sell a budget tune that's basically a canned tune for stock or very lightly modified cars. It's $180 for the tune ($200 if you go trifecta direct), and $150 for the cable ($215 if you go trifecta direct)
LNF Trifecta Budget Tune, Bad News Racing
LNF Trifecta Budget Tune, Bad News Racing
11-20-2012, 10:49 AM
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How accurate are these budget tunes? Can I request the tune be running about 23psi? It just has a catted downpipe from ZZP and a K&N air filter (not the intake).
I was hoping to be near 300whp but idk what to expect (i know it all depends on dyno and what not. I guess i should say what would the gains be from stock lol)
My car is an 09 HHR SS 5sp
I was hoping to be near 300whp but idk what to expect (i know it all depends on dyno and what not. I guess i should say what would the gains be from stock lol)
My car is an 09 HHR SS 5sp
11-20-2012, 01:00 PM
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Yea, the car i had got in the deal was a giant heap of ****. I cut down my debt in the meantime so i can afford it. As well as getting severance and 401/pension and all that jazz, the wife got a promotion 
things are looking up again
things are looking up again
11-21-2012, 04:42 PM
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Including the cable yes. But we will be having the cable sale again starting tomorrow at midnight for black friday. You can pick up the full custom tune for $300 with a cable thrown in free.
11-21-2012, 07:49 PM
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I've been considering the "budget" tune for awhile now. I'm completely stock. I'm sure it would be better than Superchips/GMS1?! Then again, you have HPT. It's so tough to make a decision.
11-22-2012, 12:36 AM
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Prevsrt4 all u need is a downpipe to run a full tune, u just run the risk of blowing out the endtanks on the intercooler and the piping as well the higher the boost. Unless u have now if u have a warrenty id run just plain ole gmstg1 thats decent power that will allow u to keep ur warrenty if anything goes wrong and i dont know how much research u done but lnfs do have a few common issue that can be costly mainly the pourous block also issue with rear brakes ruining the rotors that main two i can think of right off the top of my head. Gmstg1 give 260ish hp vs the 230ish ur making now.
11-24-2012, 12:01 AM
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Just ordered mine from BNR website... You may ask why do I want a full custom tune even though I'm still stock under the hood? So I don't have to pay for a retune when I get a catless DP down the road or when I get a CAI/cooling mods.
Prevsrt4 all u need is a downpipe to run a full tune, u just run the risk of blowing out the endtanks on the intercooler and the piping as well the higher the boost. Unless u have now if u have a warrenty id run just plain ole gmstg1 thats decent power that will allow u to keep ur warrenty if anything goes wrong and i dont know how much research u done but lnfs do have a few common issue that can be costly mainly the pourous block also issue with rear brakes ruining the rotors that main two i can think of right off the top of my head. Gmstg1 give 260ish hp vs the 230ish ur making now.
With GMS1 being $720 on average and Trifecta Direct being $500-550, I was leaning towards GMS1..
But... with this sale, the price for a full custom tune from BNR is $420 CHEAPER than the GMS1 while being allegedly undetectable by Tech2 (even though, hypothetically speaking, I'd probably reflash before taking it in for warranty if I had to).
And being hide-a-tune is a big plus for me to go with Trifecta over HP Tuners... Even though some people on here keep saying that with a good tuner you can see slightly better gains on HPT.
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11-24-2012, 12:51 AM
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11-24-2012, 02:18 AM
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And I couldn't turn down the deal on BNR website for $300 full tune AND red cable. That's $420 savings that I put into nicer tires (the UHP summer tires are worthless in Northwest rain season, so I ordered some Bridgestone Potenza RE970AS UHP all season tires, $771 installed). Otherwise I'd be getting some lower grade tires and a GM tune...
I think the route I went was better.
Anyways, BNR, thank you for a great deal.
11-24-2012, 02:46 AM
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Just ordered mine from BNR website... You may ask why do I want a full custom tune even though I'm still stock under the hood? So I don't have to pay for a retune when I get a catless DP down the road or when I get a CAI/cooling mods.
And what you're saying about the GMS1, I've been told by GM performance department tech that even with GMS1, if I blow up my turbo AND they can link it to me beating the car up, they still can deny me warranty. Not sure how much truth there is to that, but that's what I've been told by one or two dealerships (I've called quite a few, there was a big difference between GMS1 quote for some reason)
With GMS1 being $720 on average and Trifecta Direct being $500-550, I was leaning towards GMS1..
But... with this sale, the price for a full custom tune from BNR is $420 CHEAPER than the GMS1 while being allegedly undetectable by Tech2 (even though, hypothetically speaking, I'd probably reflash before taking it in for warranty if I had to).
And being hide-a-tune is a big plus for me to go with Trifecta over HP Tuners... Even though some people on here keep saying that with a good tuner you can see slightly better gains on HPT.
And what you're saying about the GMS1, I've been told by GM performance department tech that even with GMS1, if I blow up my turbo AND they can link it to me beating the car up, they still can deny me warranty. Not sure how much truth there is to that, but that's what I've been told by one or two dealerships (I've called quite a few, there was a big difference between GMS1 quote for some reason)
With GMS1 being $720 on average and Trifecta Direct being $500-550, I was leaning towards GMS1..
But... with this sale, the price for a full custom tune from BNR is $420 CHEAPER than the GMS1 while being allegedly undetectable by Tech2 (even though, hypothetically speaking, I'd probably reflash before taking it in for warranty if I had to).
And being hide-a-tune is a big plus for me to go with Trifecta over HP Tuners... Even though some people on here keep saying that with a good tuner you can see slightly better gains on HPT.
11-24-2012, 02:54 AM
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Yeah, they tried to make me admit to NLS (not sure why) when they said that the misfire happened when my rev limiter was 30%-70% engaged and "for some reason it looked like the throttle was 100% engaged even though the clutch was depressed" he says.
I said I didn't know what he was talking about, must have been "getting on the highway at the time to match the speed of traffic"
Maybe if I said "oh yeah, I was in the middle of NLS during a street race" or something of that sort, they could get out of troubleshooting my problem.
I said I didn't know what he was talking about, must have been "getting on the highway at the time to match the speed of traffic"
Maybe if I said "oh yeah, I was in the middle of NLS during a street race" or something of that sort, they could get out of troubleshooting my problem.
11-24-2012, 02:58 AM
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Yeah, they tried to make me admit to NLS (not sure why) when they said that the misfire happened when my rev limiter was 30%-70% engaged and "for some reason it looked like the throttle was 100% engaged even though the clutch was depressed" he says.
I said I didn't know what he was talking about, must have been "getting on the highway at the time to match the speed of traffic"
Maybe if I said "oh yeah, I was in the middle of NLS during a street race" or something of that sort, they could get out of troubleshooting my problem.
I said I didn't know what he was talking about, must have been "getting on the highway at the time to match the speed of traffic"
Maybe if I said "oh yeah, I was in the middle of NLS during a street race" or something of that sort, they could get out of troubleshooting my problem.
11-24-2012, 02:59 AM
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yeah thats the bad thing about chevy dealers, they will try to void ur warranty for reason thats not even legal, chevy designed the car with NLS and even showed people how to do it so to void a warranty for NLS would be just ******* insane but a dealer would try it, best thing u can do is never admit NLSing or racing and never get caught at a local track. Just say I was getting on the highway like u told them before.
And they ARE pretty sneaky in trying to have you admit stuff.. My dealer tried to convince me to "get an aftermarket intake, exhaust, and tune, just flash back to stock before warranty work"... I was like "really? You can do that?" All he was waiting for me to go "oh yeah, I had one of those"... and BOOM, they don't have to troubleshoot it and pay for any problems with misfires even though I haven't had one on this car.
11-24-2012, 03:39 AM
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Yeah dude just stay away from that dealer he sounds super sneaky lol, so he tried to convince u to buy aftermarket tune and told u he would void ur warranty with gms1 it sounds like he is trying to just get ur car voided so he dont have to cover u in the future
11-24-2012, 04:35 AM
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its hide a tune, never claimed to be not found, it doenst trip the computer like hpt does, they dont have to dig to find that out, they dig hard enough they will find vince's tune
11-24-2012, 08:23 AM
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Prevsrt4 all u need is a downpipe to run a full tune, u just run the risk of blowing out the endtanks on the intercooler and the piping as well the higher the boost. Unless u have now if u have a warrenty id run just plain ole gmstg1 thats decent power that will allow u to keep ur warrenty if anything goes wrong and i dont know how much research u done but lnfs do have a few common issue that can be costly mainly the pourous block also issue with rear brakes ruining the rotors that main two i can think of right off the top of my head. Gmstg1 give 260ish hp vs the 230ish ur making now.
11-25-2012, 05:10 PM
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This is directly from Vince when I asked him about the subject-
"There seems to be some confusion here.
Fact: With all ECMs used by all Cobalts to date, no matter what flash mode you use (“write entire” or “write calibration only”), GM dealers have no way of ever knowing it has been modified if you go back in for a visit with a stock flash on the car. Period. End of story. We have a Tech2, we’ve verified this.
Regarding EZ Flash: EZ Flash will selectively either do a full flash or a partial flash depending on whether the full OS needs to be overwritten or not. On LNF we always do a full flash because of the select-a-tune stuff and some other features.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation out there about reflash counters and reflash history data kept by the ECM. None of the Cobalt ECMs track any of this stuff.
This is changing, though. Starting with the new E38 (2010+ Camaro and other V8s), E39 (2011 Buick Regal), newer T43 and T76 (6sp automatic) and E78 (2011 Chevy Cruze 1.4 turbo) controllers, the dealer will now be able to see the reflash history of the engine or transmission operation segment for up to 10 flashes. We believe we’ve found a non-invasive way to prevent this counter from changing with our tunes for these new vehicles but it’s still under development.
- Vince Geglia
Trifecta Performance, Inc."
"There seems to be some confusion here.
Fact: With all ECMs used by all Cobalts to date, no matter what flash mode you use (“write entire” or “write calibration only”), GM dealers have no way of ever knowing it has been modified if you go back in for a visit with a stock flash on the car. Period. End of story. We have a Tech2, we’ve verified this.
Regarding EZ Flash: EZ Flash will selectively either do a full flash or a partial flash depending on whether the full OS needs to be overwritten or not. On LNF we always do a full flash because of the select-a-tune stuff and some other features.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation out there about reflash counters and reflash history data kept by the ECM. None of the Cobalt ECMs track any of this stuff.
This is changing, though. Starting with the new E38 (2010+ Camaro and other V8s), E39 (2011 Buick Regal), newer T43 and T76 (6sp automatic) and E78 (2011 Chevy Cruze 1.4 turbo) controllers, the dealer will now be able to see the reflash history of the engine or transmission operation segment for up to 10 flashes. We believe we’ve found a non-invasive way to prevent this counter from changing with our tunes for these new vehicles but it’s still under development.
- Vince Geglia
Trifecta Performance, Inc."