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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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dont the bcm store how many times the ecm is flashed?
No

There is a lot of misinformation in this thread about flashing cars with HPTuners.

Just because ONE car got away with it, doesn't mean they all will.

Just sayin

They don't check to see if the parameters are the same, they could care less about that.

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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 03:52 AM
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They'll never make tuning idiot-proof, so I'll be stock forever.

In case anyone doesn't get my point: I'm an idiot.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
No

There is a lot of misinformation in this thread about flashing cars with HPTuners.

Just because ONE car got away with it, doesn't mean they all will.

Just sayin

They don't check to see if the parameters are the same, they could care less about that.
The fact they sent my "programming information" to GM and GM claimed it was untouched leads me to my statements. Not like I just dooped a local dealer and Im running out telling everyone they can do it too...
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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Ok so here is the deal, I would rather hear from vince that a dealer cannot and will not find the tune even with it activated, and can he do the same Stealth tune in the hpt? Or could I buy a tuner from him and have it so i can reflash my ecm anytime i go to the dealer...?

And I was a lube tech at the dealer not a full gm tech thank you.

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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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The fact they sent my "programming information" to GM and GM claimed it was untouched leads me to my statements. Not like I just dooped a local dealer and Im running out telling everyone they can do it too...
And I stand on 'one slipping through the cracks'

Grats you got away with it.

Do it twenty times with powertrain issues.

Watch your warranty go bye bye.

I'll bet a whole paypal dollar on it.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 208REV
Ok so here is the deal, I would rather hear from vince that a dealer cannot and will not find the tune even with it activated, and can he do the same Stealth tune in the hpt? Or could I buy a tuner from him and have it so i can reflash my ecm anytime i go to the dealer...?
No he does not sell a hand held tuning device, he does sell something called an EZ-Flash cable for $200 if I remember correctly + the cost of the tune. With the EZ-Flash cable and a Laptop you can flash back to stock any time you want.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 02:29 AM
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No he does not sell a hand held tuning device, he does sell something called an EZ-Flash cable for $200 if I remember correctly + the cost of the tune. With the EZ-Flash cable and a Laptop you can flash back to stock any time you want.
I know that he sends you a tuner when you buy a tune from him, that you pay a deposit for and you can keep if you really wanted too, but software expires in thirty days, I would think he could sell one that doesn't have expiring software....
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
And I stand on 'one slipping through the cracks'

Grats you got away with it.

Do it twenty times with powertrain issues.

Watch your warranty go bye bye.

I'll bet a whole paypal dollar on it.
If you are constantly bringing your car in for powertrain issues they will kiss your warranty bye bye regardless of what the programming info says...
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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It sounds like there's a lot of concern about how/which switch turns on the Trifecta tune. Would it be possible to use an accessory switch to do the job? I'd like to see a OBD connector with a mini switch that activated the tune. When you want to go stealthy just pull the plug and put it in your pocket for the next go round. Just wondering.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 208REV
I know that he sends you a tuner when you buy a tune from him, that you pay a deposit for and you can keep if you really wanted too, but software expires in thirty days, I would think he could sell one that doesn't have expiring software....
If you dont buy the cable you cant use the software anyways. If you buy the cable it comes with its own software. You can use it to datalog your tune and send the logs to Vince for ajustments to the tune.You can also check for codes. I have a cable and a OBD2 scanner which makes it easy to check different functions.
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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how much is said cable, and can I flash the existing stock flash back on to the computer exactly as it came off of the ecm to begin with? And where might I buy said cable?
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 208REV
how much is said cable, and can I flash the existing stock flash back on to the computer exactly as it came off of the ecm to begin with? And where might I buy said cable?
It is here that you will find the answers you seek... www.trifectaperformance.com
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 12:22 AM
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It is here that you will find the answers you seek... www.trifectaperformance.com
Thank you.
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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So I have another question, will the software with the flash cable allow me to adjust the tune on my car, for say... e85? or can vince make a hide a tune for e85
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 208REV
So I have another question, will the software with the flash cable allow me to adjust the tune on my car, for say... e85? or can vince make a hide a tune for e85
Vince can do it. If you have the cable Vince will check your logs and make the necessary adjustments. You need to attach the log file to your email and send it in. Its as easy as that.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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So I have another question, will the software with the flash cable allow me to adjust the tune on my car, for say... e85? or can vince make a hide a tune for e85
Originally Posted by mongorat427
Vince can do it. If you have the cable Vince will check your logs and make the necessary adjustments. You need to attach the log file to your email and send it in. Its as easy as that.
Yeah. Basically all the cable does is allow you to flash the tunes that Vince sends you and create log files for you to send back to him. There is no built-in self tuning ability (for better or worse).
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 02:34 AM
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can an anti lag be set up with the e85 tune?
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 03:18 AM
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I thought we couldn't run E85 because we can't deliver enough fuel.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 07:57 AM
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The fuel tables are unlocked, but there is not a "final" E 85 tune for the stock turbo SS/TC. I was going to run it, but its not worth the bad gas mileage for a minimal gain on my car. If you had a larger turbo, its a different story.
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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The fuel tables are unlocked, but there is not a "final" E 85 tune for the stock turbo SS/TC. I was going to run it, but its not worth the bad gas mileage for a minimal gain on my car. If you had a larger turbo, its a different story.
So vince has the tune for e85? hmmmm....
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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Back from the dead....lol

well, if the stealth tunes are undetectable by basic scanning, then all should be fine unless something major happens.

Anyone have dyno numbers on the stealth tune with no bolt-on mods?
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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Yeah. Basically all the cable does is allow you to flash the tunes that Vince sends you and create log files for you to send back to him. There is no built-in self tuning ability (for better or worse).
For those who don't already know, the Trifecta software also includes a built-in code scanner.
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted4
For those who don't already know, the Trifecta software also includes a built-in code scanner.
But can you read it if you dont buy the cable as well?
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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You can read DTC codes with pretty much any basic OBD-II code reader from Autozone, Walmart, etc. Yes, to read codes using the Trifecta software, you certainly need the cable and module. It connects the same way you would if you're loading a Trifecta tune into the vehicle. Instead of selecting "program," you select "code scanner."
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC
... Anyone have dyno numbers on the stealth tune with no bolt-on mods?
that might be a question best suited to be directly sent to Vince;
if you don't care about the hidden tune right now you can get a tune for your car for cheap;


Originally Posted by Trifecta_Performance
Budget LNF tune - Want one of Trifecta's premium 2.0 turbo tunes at a discount? If your vehicle is bone stock, or mostly stock (drop-in filter, downpipe and charge pipe upgrade ONLY), you may qualify for the LNF budget tune. There is NO datalogging support with this tune, it is truly a "canned" tune. If you order this tune, and end up needing or wanting adjustments, you will be required to pay a datalog analysis and adjustment fee ($300 additional).


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