Twin Turbo???
07-08-2009, 12:13 PM
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Twin Turbo???
Ok I have never seen this yet on this website. So it is a legitimate question
Would it be possible to Twin Turbo the Cobalt SS/TC????
Flame me if you wish.
It is just something on my mind.
Would it be possible to Twin Turbo the Cobalt SS/TC????
Flame me if you wish.
It is just something on my mind.
07-08-2009, 12:15 PM
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Hmm...to add to that, if it is possible, could you add one small turbo and one freakishly huge one? That way the small turbo would kick in quickly to help avoid lag, and then the bigger one would kick in and you'd end up with a lot more boost?
Is this something that has been tried on larger engines?
Is this something that has been tried on larger engines?
07-08-2009, 12:18 PM
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Hmm...to add to that, if it is possible, could you add one small turbo and one freakishly huge one? That way the small turbo would kick in quickly to help avoid lag, and then the bigger one would kick in and you'd end up with a lot more boost?
Is this something that has been tried on larger engines?
Is this something that has been tried on larger engines?
07-08-2009, 12:28 PM
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there are two ways to have a twin turbo setup. one way would be to split the motors exhaust flow to two seperate turbos, another method, which is what I think the cobalt T/C would only be good for, is to put one turbo on and another using the same exhaust flow. only problem is there wouldnt be enough room maybe for new charge piping?
07-08-2009, 12:30 PM
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listen up jerk, kust kidding,
you could run quad turbo if you wanted to. all you need to do is custom make a header that goes 4 - 4. as long as you have a single pipe for each cylinder, you can split the turbo. google the "ME-412" its made by Chrysler and its a 12 cylinder quad turbo. for every 3 cylinders there is a turbo and it puts out over 1000 horse
you could run quad turbo if you wanted to. all you need to do is custom make a header that goes 4 - 4. as long as you have a single pipe for each cylinder, you can split the turbo. google the "ME-412" its made by Chrysler and its a 12 cylinder quad turbo. for every 3 cylinders there is a turbo and it puts out over 1000 horse
07-08-2009, 12:33 PM
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Oh there is more problems than thinking about charge piping
How about the amount of heat TWO turbos makes.
It is horribly inefficient to run two turbos unless you are making a 1/4 mile pass then letting the thing cool down.
And the 6.5ms window is still there...you can max out performance with a slightly larger than stock turbo...and still you can do what you are trying to achieve win one properly sized turbo.
The veyron is a quad turbo w12, your point is?
You know how much air a 12 cyl engine can push versus a tiny two liter?
You would have to run 4 super small turbos. And probably make less power than stock.
How about the amount of heat TWO turbos makes.
It is horribly inefficient to run two turbos unless you are making a 1/4 mile pass then letting the thing cool down.
And the 6.5ms window is still there...you can max out performance with a slightly larger than stock turbo...and still you can do what you are trying to achieve win one properly sized turbo.
listen up jerk, kust kidding,
you could run quad turbo if you wanted to. all you need to do is custom make a header that goes 4 - 4. as long as you have a single pipe for each cylinder, you can split the turbo. google the "ME-412" its made by Chrysler and its a 12 cylinder quad turbo. for every 3 cylinders there is a turbo and it puts out over 1000 horse
you could run quad turbo if you wanted to. all you need to do is custom make a header that goes 4 - 4. as long as you have a single pipe for each cylinder, you can split the turbo. google the "ME-412" its made by Chrysler and its a 12 cylinder quad turbo. for every 3 cylinders there is a turbo and it puts out over 1000 horse
You know how much air a 12 cyl engine can push versus a tiny two liter?
You would have to run 4 super small turbos. And probably make less power than stock.
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07-08-2009, 12:33 PM
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lol anything is possible, you do know someone is building a rear wheel drive cobalt. And theres plenty of coalts that are super and turbo charged. But its going to cost money of course. alot of it.
07-08-2009, 12:42 PM
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i know victory is building it
ive seen other balts RWD too.
07-08-2009, 12:59 PM
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There is 3 ways to run twin turbos. Sequential (Supra style), parallel((sp?)2 turbos same size running at the same time), or two mismatched turbos where the feed each other(usually the worest of the 3).
If someone could figure out all the wiring, two stock turbos in sequential mode would provide some really awesome results well keeping your precious spool time. It would take a bit of work to get that setup running though.
If someone could figure out all the wiring, two stock turbos in sequential mode would provide some really awesome results well keeping your precious spool time. It would take a bit of work to get that setup running though.
07-08-2009, 01:34 PM
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Oh there is more problems than thinking about charge piping
How about the amount of heat TWO turbos makes.
It is horribly inefficient to run two turbos unless you are making a 1/4 mile pass then letting the thing cool down.
And the 6.5ms window is still there...you can max out performance with a slightly larger than stock turbo...and still you can do what you are trying to achieve win one properly sized turbo.
The veyron is a quad turbo w12, your point is?
You know how much air a 12 cyl engine can push versus a tiny two liter?
You would have to run 4 super small turbos. And probably make less power than stock.
How about the amount of heat TWO turbos makes.
It is horribly inefficient to run two turbos unless you are making a 1/4 mile pass then letting the thing cool down.
And the 6.5ms window is still there...you can max out performance with a slightly larger than stock turbo...and still you can do what you are trying to achieve win one properly sized turbo.
The veyron is a quad turbo w12, your point is?
You know how much air a 12 cyl engine can push versus a tiny two liter?
You would have to run 4 super small turbos. And probably make less power than stock.
07-08-2009, 01:42 PM
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Oh there is more problems than thinking about charge piping
How about the amount of heat TWO turbos makes.
It is horribly inefficient to run two turbos unless you are making a 1/4 mile pass then letting the thing cool down.
And the 6.5ms window is still there...you can max out performance with a slightly larger than stock turbo...and still you can do what you are trying to achieve win one properly sized turbo.
The veyron is a quad turbo w12, your point is?
You know how much air a 12 cyl engine can push versus a tiny two liter?
You would have to run 4 super small turbos. And probably make less power than stock.
How about the amount of heat TWO turbos makes.
It is horribly inefficient to run two turbos unless you are making a 1/4 mile pass then letting the thing cool down.
And the 6.5ms window is still there...you can max out performance with a slightly larger than stock turbo...and still you can do what you are trying to achieve win one properly sized turbo.
The veyron is a quad turbo w12, your point is?
You know how much air a 12 cyl engine can push versus a tiny two liter?
You would have to run 4 super small turbos. And probably make less power than stock.
07-08-2009, 01:50 PM
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Why twin turbo it? We already know twin charging is successful... I would say do that. Get you a LSJ intake, SC, tensioner, belt, and a reliable tune and I would say it would be just as good ass the other twin charged LSJ's. I would wait to do this until they figure out the fuel mapping on our cars though.
Twin turbo on a I4 isn't good. Our tiny 2.0L wouldn't push enough air off to spool both turbos, mainly if you go with a 2nd bigger turbo. Either Keep a generously large turbo on it or twin charge it. Maybe ZZP can produce a twin charge kit for the LNF.
I may be missing some things, or it might just be plain and simply retarded.... I was thinking about this not long ago too
Twin turbo on a I4 isn't good. Our tiny 2.0L wouldn't push enough air off to spool both turbos, mainly if you go with a 2nd bigger turbo. Either Keep a generously large turbo on it or twin charge it. Maybe ZZP can produce a twin charge kit for the LNF.
I may be missing some things, or it might just be plain and simply retarded.... I was thinking about this not long ago too
07-08-2009, 02:08 PM
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To add on to my previous post.... I think win charging it with our turbo (K04) would be useless as it is a small turbo and spools at a very low RMP. I would say to twin charge it after a larger turbo is installed.
But I may be wrong. What if there was some kind of clutch system for the SC pully? Like it disengages at a mid range RPM when the Turbo is spooled up, or would that be retarded? maybe a smaller pully?. I thinks that's a practical idea, but has a clutch system for a SC ever been done or thought of?
But I may be wrong. What if there was some kind of clutch system for the SC pully? Like it disengages at a mid range RPM when the Turbo is spooled up, or would that be retarded? maybe a smaller pully?. I thinks that's a practical idea, but has a clutch system for a SC ever been done or thought of?
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