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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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dude you can put 4 turbos on the cobalt if you have enough money,1 turbo for each runner. I seen a v8 with 8 turbos 1 per cly.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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People should look into reading my post...

And twincharging is a fail, especially with a turbo as small as this one.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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our turbo isnt really isnt supossed to be as effecient as it is.
it uses a twin scroll design
each of two scrolls on the turbine is fed by a seperate exhaust passage
one from cylinders 1 and 4 the other from 2 and 3
this is what eliminates lag @ low speeds
go drive a k04 on an old V dub or something, you'll see
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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I thought it was more like one smaller exhaust channel and then a larger one. The small one is always open and then the larger opens at like 3-4k rpms. the small channel increases the exhaust escape velocity by projecting it through a small opening giving enough force to start spooling the turbo at low rpm? am I right?
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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what i said is true for sure
as far as the inner diameter of this exhaust passage im not sure, i was believing that the vanes were pitched differently but you cant quote me on that, i would say one of is right thou
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CudaJoe
I thought it was more like one smaller exhaust channel and then a larger one. The small one is always open and then the larger opens at like 3-4k rpms. the small channel increases the exhaust escape velocity by projecting it through a small opening giving enough force to start spooling the turbo at low rpm? am I right?
from the pics ive seen, looks like both diameters are the same size.

Originally Posted by JsavageSS/TC
To add on to my previous post.... I think win charging it with our turbo (K04) would be useless as it is a small turbo and spools at a very low RMP. I would say to twin charge it after a larger turbo is installed.
But I may be wrong. What if there was some kind of clutch system for the SC pully? Like it disengages at a mid range RPM when the Turbo is spooled up, or would that be retarded? maybe a smaller pully?. I thinks that's a practical idea, but has a clutch system for a SC ever been done or thought of?
this is correct. you want a large turbo in a twincharge build. the blower will provide the low end power and spool the large turbo. The SC has a "clutch" kind of. Its the bypass section of the blower/IM. It does what a clutch would do. as for our turbo spooling...theres no point. It hits peak torque faster than the LSJ does, just off of idle. There is no spool time on the stock turbo

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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Vince and I were discussing this the other night. It would be interesting to mount a second, larger, tubo via STS rear mount. It would be sequential with the stock turbo feeding the 2nd, larger, turbo. Boost tubing from both would feed the intercooler with each turbo having it's own dedicated air intake. MAF would be re-located to the cold side boost tube.

Just an idea.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by scott allen
dude you can put 4 turbos on the cobalt if you have enough money,1 turbo for each runner. I seen a v8 with 8 turbos 1 per cly.
They would have to be pretty small or it would be lag city and very thermally efficient so not too much waste heat.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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need a test car?

lol
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearImageAuto Dan
Vince and I were discussing this the other night. It would be interesting to mount a second, larger, tubo via STS rear mount. It would be sequential with the stock turbo feeding the 2nd, larger, turbo. Boost tubing from both would feed the intercooler with each turbo having it's own dedicated air intake. MAF would be re-located to the cold side boost tube.

Just an idea.
Sounds like a good idea. No more MAF though. SD tune FTMFW.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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forged internal FTW
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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il drive to washington for test car. lol
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by swazzees
forged internal FTW
Pistons and you're there...



And port fueling along with the DI is a bad idea IMO.

One or the other, not both.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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il drive to washington for test car. lol
already called it...
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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can you make it like this 350z has it? shares same boost tubing from IC.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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Compound turbo's > Sequential turbo's

We can make it happen
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RageTechnologies
Compound turbo's > Sequential turbo's

We can make it happen
Not really. Compound turbo's is like twincharging. There becomes a restriction somewhere in the process.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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race u swazzees.

i was good friends with beth before she left.

so i win
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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race u swazzees.

i was good friends with beth before she left.

so i win
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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to washington.......i may win
lol
and ill race u for the 1/4
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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ok u leave monday....ill leave tomorrow.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
Not really. Compound turbo's is like twincharging. There becomes a restriction somewhere in the process.
No not really. Proper turbo selection will prevent that from being a problem.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ClearImageAuto Dan
Vince and I were discussing this the other night. It would be interesting to mount a second, larger, tubo via STS rear mount. It would be sequential with the stock turbo feeding the 2nd, larger, turbo. Boost tubing from both would feed the intercooler with each turbo having it's own dedicated air intake. MAF would be re-located to the cold side boost tube.

Just an idea.
exactly what i thought before i even clicked on this thread, u can always twin turbo, ur not limited to the room in the engine bay, remote mount it...can be done, they make intercoolers with 2 inlets and 1 outlet...now the only problem is with the bigger turbo u will be pushing mroe exhaust...and with the stock turbo being so small, it may become a restriction to the bigger turbo in the back
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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for a 4 cylinder i would use only 1 properly sized turbo for ur app...running 2 would creat alot more heat not to mention would probably hurt spool time not help it..2 cyl...for a turbo..not much flow there and espicailly if ur running a rather large turbo off 2...id say waste of money..not to mention tuning would be fairly harder and have to be very percise...just another thought think about the 2jz guys with there supras...inline 6 twin they swap that out for just 1 fairly massive turbo that spoolls quick because of all 6 cy....sometimes more isnt merrier
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wtpcobaltss
for a 4 cylinder i would use only 1 properly sized turbo for ur app...running 2 would creat alot more heat not to mention would probably hurt spool time not help it..2 cyl...for a turbo..not much flow there and espicailly if ur running a rather large turbo off 2...id say waste of money..not to mention tuning would be fairly harder and have to be very percise...just another thought think about the 2jz guys with there supras...inline 6 twin they swap that out for just 1 fairly massive turbo that spoolls quick because of all 6 cy....sometimes more isnt merrier
now thats considering u split the cylinders, would be a different issue for a engine bay turbo+a remote mounted bigger turbo....they will both get all 4cylinders worth of exhaust
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