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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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What happened to the guy with the melted spark plug?

I guess the thread got deleted, or I can't find it. Can you let us know what you find? I don't remember your username.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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It was kdubs something and I texted James the same question. Lol!
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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He deleted it because people were making accusations. Of this and that.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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LOL! Here's the chronology of that post:

1. Guy posts saying he JUST uploaded a tune and was gonna do some dataloging. Then something popped. No boost and the car sounded like crap. He had pics of an oily spark plug with no grounding electrode. He also had a video of his car idling. It sounded like a Subaru with a bent rod. I suggested he contact his tuner.

2. Then a few hours later the OP edits his post and just says he was just doing a 3rd gear pull. He deletes the part about how it happened immediately after he uploaded the tune. The OP also edited his signature removing "tuned by Cobaltss3 on E47"

3. The tuner then comes into the thread and gives various mechanical reasons why this happened and said the tune was fine.

4. That's when I called the OP out on editing the original post and his signature. You don't ask people for help diagnosing a problem without telling the truth about what happened just before the problem occurred. You're just wasting their time.

5. Then the OP deleted the thread.

I don't know anything about HPT and tuning. What I do know is if your car is running fine and you then change something and your car immediately breaks, it's usually due to the changes you just made. It looked to me like the OP got a new HPT tune by email, threw in half a tank of E85, loaded the tune, did a pull and BOOM went the dynomite.

The only reason I'm making this follow up post is because of the tuner. James is always going into Trifecta and ZZP threads acting like he knows more than anyone else and saying they are doing it wrong, causing customers' cars to break, etc. Then when something breaks right after uploading a James tune it is immediately swept under the rug.

This is a guy that writes at about a seventh grade level and learned how to tune from a FORUM. He's using a software that no longer supports our platform and has tables he cannot even access. How people put their $10-18K cars in his hands for tuning is a mystery to me.

Here's the original thread but the link won't work:

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...5/#post6658626

I've got nothing against James personally but if you can dish it out you damn sure better be able to take it.








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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 09:39 PM
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James has helped me many times and he isn't as retarded as he types. Maybe OP should learn how to read a log and if something is wrong let off the throttle. I have had some Shitty tunes sent to me and I know enough not to do a full pull.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 10:13 PM
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Casionerd let me explain something to you since you assume your smarter then the average tech. Op or known as kyle got a revision with a more aggressive tune yes which he was even logging on when this occurred. Before all this he was having misfire issues so he gapped down his plugs lower. Which lowering or widening the gap can cause malfunctions within the strength of the bond between the grounding strap and the actual plug itself. Now this is more then likely what caused the occurrence. There's proof within the log. 0 kr, 0 misfires, egts 1500 most, timing at the time was only 24-25 afr was commanded .86, Injectors and everything else is good to go. So let me explain more in detail about this.




I not once said for op / Kyle to do ****, in fact I was laughing my ass off at the ******* people. Because the first person they point at is always the tuner . But funny thing, the log is there. Proof. Everything was mint, issue was in fact the plugs grounding strap. I talked with Kyle when it happened and asked for the log and he took screen prints of the **** when it happened. 0 issues until it happened then bam misfires and kr 2.2 most.

I also go into threads when people ask for help I'm ******* sorry! This a damn problem? When someone says my car is sputtering or blah blah blah, have the damn thing logged. I've proven many times issues were faulty parts or could be fixed within the tune side. In te aspect of ops car is was either mfg defect or because he caused the strength in the ground strap to go way down. Cuz before all this, that's what he did.

Now more onto "where I learned tuning"

Bro I actually went to school and work for a few shops down here when they need me . Other then that I have my own. I went for almost 4 years infact so your judgment of my tuning is pure ****. You have nothing on me kid.. Nothing at all, my cars been tuned for the passed 70k miles and all were high boost. I have guys in the 200k mile range on ls engines, I have ecotecs tuned from lower mileage up to 170k. I've tuned cars worth more then you prob make in a few years. So please quit your shitcrant of nothing and please kick yourself in the vag.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 10:15 PM
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As btw I was in the thread before you
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
As btw I was in the thread before you
No you weren't. I was the first to reply. I copied the OP's signature and put it as a quote from him. Then I said he should talk to you. Then the OP changed his story and you chimed in and I replied a second time.

Never said I knew anything about tuning. In fact, I pointed out that I know nothing about it. I know you can't write but hopefully you can read. If so, you should do it.

Edit: I actually just read all of your post above the one I quoted here. Wow you are defensive. Maybe I'm on to something here. I wasn't aware of a four year HPT university. It's obvious you didn't take any English, Marketing or Business classes while you were there. You're not representing yourself or your tuning side business very well at all. Also, what $450,000.00 cars are you tuning???? (Actually I only make $60K a year. My wife makes $90K+)

Maybe a mod could reopen the thread and show it prior to the edits.

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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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You are correct, I stated all the happened and even proof lol. Op/ Kyle knew what happened. You coming in talking ahit shows the ignorance so please if you have nothing to say that is actually smart and understanding do not say one other word. I know how a plug grounding strap can break and what causes it. And clearly the obvious reasoning on his car was it broke off, but from it bein weak. The log shows no signs of engine faults or anything close to it. Now another thing, I've been tuning longer then I have even been on forums so please get that **** right. Making childish accusations is pure ignorance ..
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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2 questions...

Did he bend a valve? Has a stock file vehicle ever bent a valve?
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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Did you really bring up how he writes on a forum? I mean its a damn car forum not a English class.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
Casionerd let me explain something to you since you assume your smarter then the average tech. Op or known as kyle got a revision with a more aggressive tune yes which he was even logging on when this occurred. Before all this he was having misfire issues so he gapped down his plugs lower. Which lowering or widening the gap can cause malfunctions within the strength of the bond between the grounding strap and the actual plug itself. Now this is more then likely what caused the occurrence. There's proof within the log. 0 kr, 0 misfires, egts 1500 most, timing at the time was only 24-25 afr was commanded .86, Injectors and everything else is good to go. So let me explain more in detail about this.




I not once said for op / Kyle to do ****, in fact I was laughing my ass off at the ******* people. Because the first person they point at is always the tuner . But funny thing, the log is there. Proof. Everything was mint, issue was in fact the plugs grounding strap. I talked with Kyle when it happened and asked for the log and he took screen prints of the **** when it happened. 0 issues until it happened then bam misfires and kr 2.2 most.

I also go into threads when people ask for help I'm ******* sorry! This a damn problem? When someone says my car is sputtering or blah blah blah, have the damn thing logged. I've proven many times issues were faulty parts or could be fixed within the tune side. In te aspect of ops car is was either mfg defect or because he caused the strength in the ground strap to go way down. Cuz before all this, that's what he did.

Now more onto "where I learned tuning"

Bro I actually went to school and work for a few shops down here when they need me . Other then that I have my own. I went for almost 4 years infact so your judgment of my tuning is pure ****. You have nothing on me kid.. Nothing at all, my cars been tuned for the passed 70k miles and all were high boost. I have guys in the 200k mile range on ls engines, I have ecotecs tuned from lower mileage up to 170k. I've tuned cars worth more then you prob make in a few years. So please quit your shitcrant of nothing and please kick yourself in the vag.
made me laugh
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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Stock file? Meaning stock tune? This mainly happens to fords and I'm sure it's happened to stock cars.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 10:54 PM
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It bent a valve from breaking the grounding strap !!
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 11:00 PM
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I heard he sold the car and got one of those Cobalt Type S's.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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I don't know who it was but I remember one GMS1 person broke ringlands once - maybe others.
But we don't know what it is yet so in reality all this bitching means nothing. In truth, everything said is speculation.

Let's just let him figure out what it is and hopefully he hasn't ran off leaving us with no updates. I'm interested to see how it turns out myself. I know how this forum can suck you into a "heated discussion" to put it that way. I've had a couple and then I end up staying off the forum for a while.

So come on guys, lets push our pride to the side and just see what's what here. Yes?

EDIT: oh, thank you ChevyCobaltss3 for informing us!
Not great news but we knew it wasn't going to be good. However, it could have been much worse. I suppose it still could be.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
It bent a valve from breaking the grounding strap !!
Yeah I meant stock tune Cobalts. I was curious if a stock tune cobalt ever bent a valve but if you're saying you think the little grounding strap came off and broke a valve then my question doesn't apply. Whats worse is that a piece of SOMETHING went through that exhaust housing and more than likely chewed up some turbine blades...

I wonder... Did he change the gap right after loading a new file or was it before? What gap was he at first and what gap did he go to?
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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First gap was .035 stock gap but during tuning no misfiring. So once he got home he regapped down farther. I beleive .030-.028 or so.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 11:36 PM
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Wow.

I can't believe I'm wasting this much time in this thread. I am just pointing out the obvious:

- Guy uploads tune.
- Car immediately blows up.
- Guy talks to tuner.
- Guy then changes his story about what really happened before the car blew up and edits his post and signature to remove any mention of his tuner.
- Tuner says it's mechanical and his tune had nothing to do with it.
- I bring this up because the tuner always accuses others of breaking stuff but when his tune is questioned the evidence is hidden/deleted immediately.
- Tuner is unable to address the facts so he resorts to the equivalent of "You mad bro?"

The reason for referring to James' poor English, business and communication skills has nothing to do with forumspeak. There are many people on here who couldn't produce a proper sentence on or off this forum if their life depended on it. The reason I mention James' inabilities (and the resulting perceived stupidity) has to do with people trusting him with their cars. I just don't get the James nutswingers. I would never trust someone who conducts themselves the way James does to work on the most complicated part of my car.

Maybe it's just coincidence that the engine broke immediately after changing the tune?

Anyway, I'm done here (this thread anyway). James gets the last word, regardless of how incomprehensible and childish it may be.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 11:42 PM
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Like I said your a dipshit ! You think you know what your talking about. Op clearly asked what happened. H texted me first last night and I asked for the log. During all his pulls no issues everything checked out. That hard to understand? I mean really? All your doing is wasting my time and not only that but clearly making yourself look like a childish idiot. The accusations are always "it's the tune" when in fact we through that out because everything checked out. You think I magically went in there with a fuc*ing hammer and said break? No detonation, air fuel was spot on, everything checked out on the side ... "**** happens" you want me to explain more to your non understanding ass?
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 11:48 PM
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Here is exactly how it happens

Kyle uploads tune. I tell him to log the car and send when he does upload this latest revision.
Kyle logs, and texts me and says what happened. I asked send me the log. So I go to when it happened and before. 0.0 kr, afr is commanded with 0 error. Trims are litterally perfect, idcs never reach above 30, the calculated egts never reach 1500ish, injector pulse is norm, and 000 misfiring. Then all of a sudden at 5k it misfires and detonates after a couple pulls already passed that mark.

So once I've looked everything over I ask, " is it burning oil?"
Kyle states no, just raw fuel

So I said ok, compression and leaks own test.

Then he made te thread.

He never changed anything, within what he has said. He removed his thread because kids like you, accusations out the ass. "it's always the tune". When I come into any thread I look at causes and issues. And I will say look st tune. I don't say it is the tune. That's the first thing needing checked out. And in this case it is not the prob.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 11:50 PM
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And I've already mentioned facts . Many times now..
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
First gap was .035 stock gap but during tuning no misfiring. So once he got home he regapped down farther. I beleive .030-.028 or so.
What was his reason for decreasing gap if there were no problems? I'm trying to work through this. Something isn't adding up. I'd like to think that if Kyle edited his post it was to further clarify, not hide something.
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 12:15 AM
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He deleted his post because idiots like above making accusations. But he lowered gap abit ago because he had "wot misfire" which was weeks ago.
once he lowered the gap it was fine. But gap was changed a few times I believe.
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 12:16 AM
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When I tuned him it was around 5gallons e rest gas. So we revised in via remotely.
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