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Old May 6, 2013 | 03:50 PM
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lol i haven't done any of that so take it as you will... but like i said, when the same parts fails multiple times in the same manner, it's not the parts fault. and i, what you apparently call brag, mention my numbers as an example of how these transmissions hold FAR beyond when they're rated for. and i am not the only one... so when they break at that level, i would bet money it's going to keep breaking until he fixes how he drives, no matter what he puts in there. and that is why we haven't answered his question... smh.
Old May 6, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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i still find it funny how you seem to think he's not blaming his transmission. if that's the case then what does "this is the second time my transmission has broke what should i run next" mean?? i'd love to know.
Old May 6, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
lol i haven't done any of that so take it as you will... but like i said, when the same parts fails multiple times in the same manner, it's not the parts fault. and i, what you apparently call brag, mention my numbers as an example of how these transmissions hold FAR beyond when they're rated for. so when they break at that level, i would bet money it's going to keep breaking until he fixes how he drives, no matter what he puts in there. and that is why we haven't answered his question... smh.
i concur about the multiple times statement^^ idk wtf happened with mine though lol.
Old May 6, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Pretty sure synchros don't fail because of power. They fail because you are trying to shift faster than they can bring the next gear up to speed. 1-2 is rough to try and power shift due to the ratio.
Word of advice , if it feels like it doesn't want to go in then don't force it (thats what she said)
To answer your question.


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Old May 6, 2013 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by phatnackySS
Pretty sure synchros don't fail because of power. They fail because you are trying to shift faster than they can bring the next gear up to speed. 1-2 is rough to try and power shift due to the ratio.
Word of advice , if it feels like it dosnt want to go in turn don't force it (thats what she said)
To answer your question.

lol, it will never get old "thats what she said" lines.
Old May 6, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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synchro probably fails from numerous missed shifts also
Old May 6, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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i still find it funny how you seem to think he's not blaming his transmission. if that's the case then what does "this is the second time my transmission has broke what should i run next" mean?? i'd love to know.
He blew his trans, he wants to know what trans to run next. Please explain how this is blaming his trans for the failure. Now if he had said I keep blowing these because they are junk, then yes that would be blaming the trans but he's not. I talked to him after it happened, if he can get an lsj or hhr trans for cheaper he will, but he wants to know if it will hold up like the Lnf. Doesn't matter how many he's been through and how many he will go through, he just wants to know if the hhr and lsj trans are as strong as the Lnf so he can save a bit of money.

Instead of just criticism, why not give advice? Since youve been able to hold close to 500 ftlbs on a stock trans please give us details as to how you've managed to keep it so healthy. I'm sure hed appreciate the advice.
Old May 6, 2013 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
lol i haven't done any of that so take it as you will... but like i said, when the same parts fails multiple times in the same manner, it's not the parts fault. and i, what you apparently call brag, mention my numbers as an example of how these transmissions hold FAR beyond when they're rated for. and i am not the only one... so when they break at that level, i would bet money it's going to keep breaking until he fixes how he drives, no matter what he puts in there. and that is why we haven't answered his question... smh.
He knows it's only a matter of time before it goes again, he just wants to save some money going to the lsj or hhr trans instead of the Lnf.
Old May 6, 2013 | 04:53 PM
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I like how learning better driving habbits just isnt even an option.
Old May 6, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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Driver failure -> transmission failure
Old May 6, 2013 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by phatnackySS
I like how learning better driving habbits just isnt even an option.
Let's hear it pro, throw out some better driving habits. I'm not sure how that's going to help him decide what trans to buy.

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Driver failure -> transmission failure
Really??? Did you not see the other 6 people post the same thing?
Old May 6, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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Reinstating the facts, herb.
Old May 6, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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lol to this whole thread! i have blown 2 trans and one was a 4.45 but 3rd gear exploded both times haha im trying the f23 now ill let you guys know.
Old May 6, 2013 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ramrod1337
Let's hear it pro, throw out some better driving habits. I'm not sure how that's going to help him decide what trans to buy.



Really??? Did you not see the other 6 people post the same thing?
Dude it doesn't ******* matter , that's the point everyone is trying to pound into your head.
All the MU3 trans are basically the same aside from gear ratios/final drive.
The problem is that your bro is asking the wrong questing,and everyone is trying to point you in the right direction.

There is nothing wrong with the MU3 F35 Trans in this situation,It doesn't matter what trans he gets its just gonna break like the rest, most likely the problem is that he needs to stop thunder fist ******* his transmission , just take it a little easy on the 1-2 shift. just about every car iv driven with a f35 has been a little hard to shift fast on the 1-2 shift. ZZP had to go through and re-shim the trans to tighter tolerances in order to achieve quicker shift times. Don't force it and it should be fine.
Old May 6, 2013 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by phatnackySS
Dude it doesn't ******* matter , that's the point everyone is trying to pound into your head.
All the MU3 trans are basically the same aside from gear ratios/final drive.
The problem is that your bro is asking the wrong questing,and everyone is trying to point you in the right direction.

There is nothing wrong with the MU3 F35 Trans in this situation,It doesn't matter what trans he gets its just gonna break like the rest, most likely the problem is that he needs to stop thunder fist ******* his transmission , just take it a little easy on the 1-2 shift. just about every car iv driven with a f35 has been a little hard to shift fast on the 1-2 shift. ZZP had to go through and re-shim the trans to tighter tolerances in order to achieve quicker shift times. Don't force it and it should be fine.
Here we go, 30 posts later someone answers the question. Yes it does matter when the difference in price can be several hundred dollars. His problem is exactly that, slamming the bitch in gear. If he doesn't change how he drives that's his fault. He just wants to get a trans in there for cheaper than what he can get an Lnf trans for.

Do you understand what I'm trying to pound into everyone else's head? Yes i know synchros aren't going out due to tq output. Yes I know it will happen again, GO READ MY FIRST POST WHERE I SAID YOUR JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER ONE. Thank you for answering the question. I could not answer it 100% because I remember hearing that the Lnf case is stronger/thicker than the lsj.
Old May 7, 2013 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ramrod1337
Let's hear it pro, throw out some better driving habits. I'm not sure how that's going to help him decide what trans to buy.
well if it's not going to help then why ask. if he knows he's just gonna keep blowing through them does it matter what he buys? if you're going to keep breaking a part just get the cheapest one.
Old May 7, 2013 | 12:50 AM
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The difference between the lsj and hhr trans is the final drive is 4.05 vs 3.82. Any one of them will work fine and bolt up with no issues.
Old May 7, 2013 | 12:58 AM
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Old May 7, 2013 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
well if it's not going to help then why ask. if he knows he's just gonna keep blowing through them does it matter what he buys? if you're going to keep breaking a part just get the cheapest one.
Yes it matters what he buys. Especially if he does go through multiple. Let's just say $500 difference in price, he ends up going through 5 of them before he figures out what hes doing wrong. That's $2500 difference in price, does that matter? If you care about money, then yes. But then your argument would be if he cares about money why go through so many trans? Just seems like a waste of money. Well yes it does seem like a waste, but he's trying to get his car to run good from a dig on the track and street. This is why I said he's going to go through more. He's still trying to get it down. Not everyone can be drag pros like you and chris. So that is why he wants the cheapest option. Do you follow?

And I asked so that we could get some advice not just the unhelpful criticism. Maybe he will see this and change what he's doing idk. But if your going to criticize the least you could do is throw a little bit of helpful advice in also.

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Old May 7, 2013 | 01:56 AM
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you didn't read my post there... " if he knows he's just gonna keep blowing through them does it matter what he buys" (lnf, lsj, hhr) that's why i said "if you're going to keep breaking a part just get the cheapest one."
Old May 7, 2013 | 02:02 AM
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your example above... $2500 is just the difference in the 5 transmissions. if he really thinks he's going to go through that many... just get the 6speed and call it a day. but expect a transmission to hold together if the driving still isn't corrected.

if you want advice do the following.

quit racing one street tires.
get rid of all wheel hop.
stop missing shifts.
quit down shifting. put it in neutral until you come to a stop. or you've slowed enough to let the car turn or the light change, etc.. and then select the gear you want. rev match. and continue. doing 1 rev match > doing 2.
don't go wot on rough roads or where the car will be bouncing around.
don't sit at the light with a gear selected and the clutch pushed in
Old May 7, 2013 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ramrod1337
He blew his trans, he wants to know what trans to run next. Please explain how this is blaming his trans for the failure. Now if he had said I keep blowing these because they are junk, then yes that would be blaming the trans but he's not. I talked to him after it happened, if he can get an lsj or hhr trans for cheaper he will, but he wants to know if it will hold up like the Lnf. Doesn't matter how many he's been through and how many he will go through, he just wants to know if the hhr and lsj trans are as strong as the Lnf so he can save a bit of money.

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I asked for you to point out where HE blames the trans and it seems you cannot. He didn't ask whats causing it to fail, if he had you might have answered his question. While you are probably right, he never blamed the trans and you still haven't answered his question. What hes really asking is, will the lsj or hhr trans hold up aswell as the Lnf? I know that's not what he asked, but I know that's what he's trying to ask lol.
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He knows it's only a matter of time before it goes again, he just wants to save some money going to the lsj or hhr trans instead of the Lnf.
Three times I asked the same question, still took 39 posts to get a simple answer smh... If I had asked why does it keep happening then I would understand the responses. That wasnt the question though was it?
Old May 7, 2013 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
you didn't read my post there... " if he knows he's just gonna keep blowing through them does it matter what he buys" (lnf, lsj, hhr) that's why i said "if you're going to keep breaking a part just get the cheapest one."
This was the answer I was trying to get the whole time ahahaha.


Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
your example above... $2500 is just the difference in the 5 transmissions. if he really thinks he's going to go through that many... just get the 6speed and call it a day. but expect a transmission to hold together if the driving still isn't corrected.

if you want advice do the following.

quit racing one street tires.
get rid of all wheel hop.
stop missing shifts.
quit down shifting. put it in neutral until you come to a stop. or you've slowed enough to let

the car turn or the light change, etc.. and then select the gear you want. rev match. and continue. doing 1 rev match > doing 2.
don't go wot on rough roads or where the car will be bouncing around.
don't sit at the light with a gear selected and the clutch pushed in
Thats the exact reason he doesn't want an expensive upgrade cause he will likely blow that one, which is a much bigger difference in price. Hopefully he sees this and changes his habits.
Old May 7, 2013 | 02:29 AM
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This was the answer I was trying to get the whole time ahahaha.
and that is what we've been saying the whole time.. you just seem to be set in your ways and didn't notice. if he's going to keep breaking them then it doesn't matter what he gets. idk why he even made a thread about it.. "well i'm just gonna keep going through them might as well get the cheapest" that's why we're saying fix how he drives.

i really don't understand why he's okay with going through transmission after transmission but hey his time and money...

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it must be the transmission's fault..
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how is he not? he's had two fail, and wants to upgrade.. he's certainly not blaming anything else..

and the reason we bring up "driver mod" is because unless he changes how he's driving the car he will continue to just go through them. when the same things fail multiple times, it's more than likely not that part causing it. so unfortunately his theory of "oh it must be the transmission isn't able to handle it" is not true.
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right, and my transmission is holding 600hp and 477ftlbs because "i got lucky"
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you have a better chance of saving your trans on slicks than you do on street tires or a drag radial
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and that is what we've been saying the whole time.. you just seem to be set in your ways and didn't notice. if he's going to keep breaking them then it doesn't matter what he gets. idk why he even made a thread about it.. "well i'm just gonna keep going through them might as well get the cheapest" that's why we're saying fix how he drives.

i really don't understand why he's okay with going through transmission after transmission but hey his time and money...

Read through this, should look familiar, they're posts from you. No where does it answer the ? till post 41. If you look you even comment in post 26 about NOT answering the question. If he keeps breaking them it doesn't matter what he gets??? It does matter when there is a difference in price. Understand what I'm getting at??? He could spend more on an Lnf trans and blow it or he can spend less on an lsj trans and break it. Would you rather spend more or less???? See why it matters? If he's going to go through them he may aswell be buying the cheapest ones. That's why it matters. I never said he was ok with it, but he wants his car quick from a dig, would you rather him give up an not try??? Again not everyone can be professional drag racers lol.



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