Zfr with trifecta anyone?
01-10-2013, 11:00 PM
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Zfr with trifecta anyone?
Hoping for some feedback since I purchased a zfr turbo! Currently running trifecta with a k04. Track times? Dyno? What kind of numbers should I expect with 24ish psi? Also still have stock map sensors these or ok with trifecta tune right?
01-10-2013, 11:36 PM
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Now this is just my opinion but, if your going to spend the money to upgrade the turbo, why not go with the best tunning available. If your going to spend the money you may aswell get the full potential out of it. Again just my opinion.
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Im gonna guess 350-400, heres a vid racing a tuned cobalt
cobalt ss 09 trifecta - hhr ss 2010 ZFR trifecta tune - YouTube
cobalt ss 09 trifecta - hhr ss 2010 ZFR trifecta tune - YouTube
If I would guess I'd say 380-450, but I don't know.
Great video btw
01-11-2013, 02:30 PM
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SAE/STD correction for someone at a crazy high altitude will be ridiculous and actually show the car to make more than it would the closer you get to sea level.
Considering how mild Trifecta can be and the fact that the HHR uses a 4.05 gear, I'd assume that 375-380whp is accurate.
OP, if you're going to do it, do it right and have someone spend some good time on that car in a multitude of different situations. Nothing wrong with Trifecta but I believe you would be better suited with someone who can dedicate some good time to dialing in your setup.
01-11-2013, 02:59 PM
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Explaine what? Vince will tune the car conservatively, that's a known fact. My guess would be his tune on it would bet about 380-390. With someone getting in the car and actually dialing things in I would suspect about 20+ HP. I could be wrong for I have not messed with a ZFR but I know it's similar to the WR3 that I run, and on 93 you can't do a whole lot. Throw some E or meth in the equation and you will bet higher gains
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What altitude where you dynoed at?
SAE/STD correction for someone at a crazy high altitude will be ridiculous and actually show the car to make more than it would the closer you get to sea level.
Considering how mild Trifecta can be and the fact that the HHR uses a 4.05 gear, I'd assume that 375-380whp is accurate.
OP, if you're going to do it, do it right and have someone spend some good time on that car in a multitude of different situations. Nothing wrong with Trifecta but I believe you would be better suited with someone who can dedicate some good time to dialing in your setup.
SAE/STD correction for someone at a crazy high altitude will be ridiculous and actually show the car to make more than it would the closer you get to sea level.
Considering how mild Trifecta can be and the fact that the HHR uses a 4.05 gear, I'd assume that 375-380whp is accurate.
OP, if you're going to do it, do it right and have someone spend some good time on that car in a multitude of different situations. Nothing wrong with Trifecta but I believe you would be better suited with someone who can dedicate some good time to dialing in your setup.
Regardless I like my numbers, they are all I have to go by.
01-11-2013, 06:03 PM
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Explaine what? Vince will tune the car conservatively, that's a known fact. My guess would be his tune on it would bet about 380-390. With someone getting in the car and actually dialing things in I would suspect about 20+ HP. I could be wrong for I have not messed with a ZFR but I know it's similar to the WR3 that I run, and on 93 you can't do a whole lot. Throw some E or meth in the equation and you will bet higher gains
01-11-2013, 06:20 PM
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why does everyone automatically think hptune > trifecta? is there any proof?
ive seen trifecta cars pull on hptuned cars with the same mods.
also, if vince could get 380whp out of a BNR2871 on a HHR, im sure he can get over 400 with a ZFR.
tuners vary. id trust vince over a few others out there. but thats my personal opinion.
ive seen trifecta cars pull on hptuned cars with the same mods.
also, if vince could get 380whp out of a BNR2871 on a HHR, im sure he can get over 400 with a ZFR.
tuners vary. id trust vince over a few others out there. but thats my personal opinion.
01-11-2013, 06:27 PM
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None of my comments suggested that Vince was any worse then HPTuners. I think that Vince does a good job and he has a lot of cars to prove it. I've never been one to say don't go trifecta because personally it's ur car and what you want to do with it is ur choice. I just believe that with spending the money I would want someone in my car knowing exactly what's going on to get the most out of it.
01-11-2013, 06:32 PM
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None of my comments suggested that Vince was any worse then HPTuners. I think that Vince does a good job and he has a lot of cars to prove it. I've never been one to say don't go trifecta because personally it's ur car and what you want to do with it is ur choice. I just believe that with spending the money I would want someone in my car knowing exactly what's going on to get the most out of it.
Case in point, I've seen a few Trifecta tunes that may have slipped through the cracks and were not very good at all (Kappa tunes). I've also seen other cars he's tuned that are pulling some amazing 1/4 trap speeds.
01-11-2013, 06:39 PM
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Ive had a great experience with Vince. Took him about 8 tunes to get my car dialed in but he worked with me even though it took a little time. Car feels great and couldnt be happier.
01-11-2013, 06:47 PM
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eric has installed it in 5 hours no leak what so ever. he run 91 and 40 lbs/min at 6500 and still rising
it my video.
eric has ajusted himself the wasget rod. he know about diesel turbo.
he has order a quick response wasget. i thing you can a low mid or quick one.
if you built right, the TFT tune ll be as easy
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eric has installed it in 5 hours no leak what so ever. he run 91 and 40 lbs/min at 6500 and still rising
it my video.
eric has ajusted himself the wasget rod. he know about diesel turbo.
he has order a quick response wasget. i thing you can a low mid or quick one.
if you built right, the TFT tune ll be as easy
eric has installed it in 5 hours no leak what so ever. he run 91 and 40 lbs/min at 6500 and still rising
it my video.
eric has ajusted himself the wasget rod. he know about diesel turbo.
he has order a quick response wasget. i thing you can a low mid or quick one.
if you built right, the TFT tune ll be as easy