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Mar 25, 2012 | 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo Hearse

S256 on zzp's site is $730
Used Intercooler $250
Used hotside piping with BOV $300
Used Manifold $200
Used wastegate $150-200

So, sorry, $1680 roughly. That's also assuming that you are able to find good deals on all of those items. No need to buy new on everything but if you did buy new it would still be less than $2k for a solid 425-450whp car

Edit: And all of those prices are prices that I've seen listed on this site for the used items.

Don't forget a coldside pipe as well!

Mar 25, 2012 | 11:15 AM

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Don't forget a coldside pipe as well!

There are guys running getting 400 out of the stock cold side

Mar 25, 2012 | 11:16 AM

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That's kinda what I figured you'd say. I never seen anyone selling the manifold used but all the other stuff I have.

There was a guy selling a used stainless manifold on here for $200 a while back but it got snatched up quick lol.

I think ZZPs mani is only $300 though correct?

Mar 25, 2012 | 11:20 AM

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hmmm interesting guess i could try and piece myself a kit lol
but you left out the exhaust

Mar 25, 2012 | 12:56 PM

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hmmm interesting guess i could try and piece myself a kit lol
but you left out the exhaust

From what I've read I was under the assumption our stock elbow would bolt right up to the S256 if you bought the 4 bolt version instead of the vband version

Mar 25, 2012 | 01:10 PM

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i would assume that even if it does bolt up the downpipe will still need some sort of modifcation as the turbos in a different place.

Mar 25, 2012 | 01:16 PM

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These threads are always have awsome info I think I'm in for this turbo next year tho ! As soon as I buy a clutch ... Then were gooood to go!

Mar 25, 2012 | 01:19 PM

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the zzp downpipe has the vpand elbow welded into it as a 1-peice because of the new turbo location

Mar 25, 2012 | 01:24 PM

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thats pretty much how every turbo kit works on these cars so far. by the time its said and done your better off just buying the companies downpipe and calling it a day. it will make life easier for you.

Mar 25, 2012 | 02:42 PM

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We used to use a larger exhaust wheel in the 256 kit, so it had quite a bit more lag than the 252. Once we tried the 256 with the same exhaust wheel that we run on the 252, it spooled nearly as well as the 252 and still makes about 20whp more at 25psi.

Hmm that's impressive but going over the 450 mark on stock internals besides valve springs scares me..

Mar 25, 2012 | 02:57 PM

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the motor can take 450 all day long. also theres nothing wrong with valve springs..... supertech and ferrea make AWESOME stuff.

Mar 25, 2012 | 04:03 PM

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I think the s256et is the perfect turbo. With a .55 AR it spools practically like the s252 and u can make 410sae reliably. If u want to get freaky, up the boost to the low 30s with e85 and get 550whp with incredibly quick spool.

Mar 25, 2012 | 04:52 PM

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Personally I'd rather have the vband setup but either way would work.

Mar 25, 2012 | 05:06 PM

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when i say exhaust i mean downpipe specifically since you have the external gate on the turbo what would you do as far as getting a dump tube

Mar 25, 2012 | 05:09 PM

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have one made.

Mar 25, 2012 | 05:22 PM

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have one made.

Word. Buy a flange and have a dump tube welded

Mar 25, 2012 | 05:23 PM

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hmm i'm thinking about it more and trying to piece together a kit rather than buy the 20g or 2871 since it would only be a few dollars more, its just the exhaust thats tripping me up

Mar 25, 2012 | 05:23 PM

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yeah dump tubes arent expensive.....realistically you should know what your doing and what you will need. if you dont have a clue by the kit. piecing one together is for someone who knows what they do and dont need.

Mar 25, 2012 | 05:27 PM

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I think the pure fact that the 256 is a superior turbo should keep you away from the 20g.

Mar 25, 2012 | 05:31 PM

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depends on what your comparing too.... to a 20g its superior without a doubt.

Mar 25, 2012 | 05:42 PM

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To the 20g. To the BNR, I think they are pretty close to being equal. 256 might be able to squeeze out more though

Mar 25, 2012 | 05:50 PM

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i know whats needed for a turbo kit, i just don't know if i want to run a open dump or recirculating
i was gonna buy that manifold from monograt but by the time i got him to check the flange someone already sent him cash

but its really down to the 28 vs 256, but then i'm just thinking of going full custom and getting a gtx 30

Mar 25, 2012 | 06:09 PM

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I was going full custom I would go 30r or 35r and call it a day but I think a built block would be required lol

Mar 25, 2012 | 06:13 PM

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i have a built bottom end already so thats not a problem for me

Mar 25, 2012 | 06:45 PM

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Lol @ those who think the bnr is equal to the s256et. Clearly u need an education. Zzp got 425whp sae on the bnr @ 25psi with ethanol and stated that the turbo was pretty close to max. They got 411 sae on pump gas from the s256et at the same boost level as the bnr. 25psi is just getting started for the s256et. Scythe_Snake put almost 600whp down on a stock motor with the s256et.

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