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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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ZZP Charge Pipe or Injen Charge Pipe with upgrade?

Should I get an Injen Charge pipe upper with upgrade and ZZP lower CP or just do both upper and lower ZZP.

My plans are

GMS1
Headlights
Lowering Springs
Charge pipes (brand undecided)
MPx Intercooler
ZZP Downpipe
AEM CAI
6000k HID fogs and headlights

Some other little things like STS with base bushing etc. I don't feel like listing them all.
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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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I would just do upper charge piping. The cold side isnt restrictive and should only be upgraded if your doing MAF relocation or running meth. I would go with ZZP they are top in quality.
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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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I like the ingen because it takes the most direct route and you dont need to cut couples off the stock pipes. I think the stock elbows are flimsy as hell. I think zzp is selling new ones with their kit if wanted. Both are good quality though.
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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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Are the lower plastic? If so I still wanna replace them.

Also how can AEM say 17 hp and K&N say 12hp increase when learn down is supposed to stop that? I guess I don't understand how learn down works
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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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I had injen charge piping. Good quality and great fitment. Whatever you do get "T" bolt clamps and silicone couplers. They are are reasuring upgrade that your piping wont come off.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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i have ZZP, cause i got it for cheap from some member on this site. plus, it was brand new, hehe.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Yeah,I got the injen chargepipes.You definetley need the t-bolt clamps a 2 longer couplers. Hahn is over priced and Ive seen lots of guys who have dented hoods cause of Hahn.

Ive also seen a few LNF's who have blown off that little nipple thats attached on the vaccum hose on the lower pipe. Those cars were tracked alot though.Keep that in mind,the lower pipe from Clear image isnt that expensive for some assurance !

Dont go GMS1,get a real tune !!!!

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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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I have both the ZZP upper and lower Cp's and love em'

With the MAF relocate you should deff. get a real tune though and not the GMS1
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by superbrowndude
Yeah,I got the injen chargepipes.You definetley need the t-bolt clamps a 2 longer couplers. Hahn is over priced and Ive seen lots of guys who have dented hoods cause of Hahn.

Ive also seen a few LNF's who have blown off that little nipple thats attached on the vaccum hose on the lower pipe. Those cars were tracked alot though.Keep that in mind,the lower pipe from Clear image isnt that expensive for some assurance !

Dont go GMS1,get a real tune !!!!
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I have both the ZZP upper and lower Cp's and love em'

With the MAF relocate you should deff. get a real tune though and not the GMS1
A real tune?

GMS1 isn't a fake tune, I wanna keep my warranty. To be honest with you if I did go trifecta, I'd just get GMS1 parameters anyway. I'm convinced that its the safest tune. Yes I spoke with Vince and he has GMS1 parameters, and if I did trifecta I'd get ZZP spare PCM then tune that. GMS1 is the most cost effective choice, unless I can find spare pcm somewhere cheap.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 12:41 AM
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or superchip, its even cheaper.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 08:14 AM
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A real tune?

GMS1 isn't a fake tune, I wanna keep my warranty. To be honest with you if I did go trifecta, I'd just get GMS1 parameters anyway. I'm convinced that its the safest tune. Yes I spoke with Vince and he has GMS1 parameters, and if I did trifecta I'd get ZZP spare PCM then tune that. GMS1 is the most cost effective choice, unless I can find spare pcm somewhere cheap.
Yes a "Real Tune" the GMS1 isn't anything close to a real tune

Basically a "canned" tune to better explain it

I'm sure it's decent for people that want to keep there warranty which in your case you do but for people wanting more deff. go HPT or Trifecta
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Supercharged Guy
Yes a "Real Tune" the GMS1 isn't anything close to a real tune

Basically a "canned" tune to better explain it

I'm sure it's decent for people that want to keep there warranty which in your case you do but for people wanting more deff. go HPT or Trifecta
I decided to get a ZZP Canned tune and roll around on that for awhile then tune it with Trifecta that way I have a spare PCM. I'll do the canned tune on my stock car and after I get all my parts I'll install them then tune it with trifecta
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by vahdyx
I decided to get a ZZP Canned tune and roll around on that for awhile then tune it with Trifecta that way I have a spare PCM. I'll do the canned tune on my stock car and after I get all my parts I'll install them then tune it with trifecta
Why waste the money on two tunes? Damn can I get $20?

-Alex
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sevensix9
Why waste the money on two tunes? Damn can I get $20?

-Alex
For a spare PCM can I get a hot tub

But what's an easier install Zzp or injen
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