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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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ZZP intercooler kit but higher AITs

So I just installed my ZZP intercooler kit and my AIT with the stock intercooler and piping was about +/- 6 degrees, now with the ZZP kit I'm at about 30 degrees over intake temps... I don't get it.

Why?
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 07:34 PM
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Couple possible things:

1. Are you using both the stock intercooler and the ZZP front mount? Or did you take out the stock intercooler?

2. Did you get the air out of the system? It takes forever BTW if you don't have an Option B.
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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Me too! That's what I am puzzled about, I am surprised yours are 30 degree over with aluminum charge pipe!? I am on OTTP mild steel charge pipes which is about 15 degree over but when I am driving it dropped down very fast!

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Couple possible things:

1. Are you using both the stock intercooler and the ZZP front mount? Or did you take out the stock intercooler?

2. Did you get the air out of the system? It takes forever BTW if you don't have an Option B.
WHAT!? He's LNF! Not LSJ! LOL!

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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by boostbalt
Couple possible things:

1. Are you using both the stock intercooler and the ZZP front mount? Or did you take out the stock intercooler?

2. Did you get the air out of the system? It takes forever BTW if you don't have an Option B.
I put in the ZZP intercooler and the stock one is in my trunk. I changed everything all at once. Stock pipes and intercooler swapped with zzp pipes and intercooler.

And no option b.
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 07:40 PM
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WHAT!? He's LNF! Not LSJ! LOL!
Lol I thought it was clear by my name. yeah sorry I'm LNF
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 07:43 PM
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I'm surprised you're 30 degrees over, just don't make sense.
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 07:46 PM
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I'm surprised you're 30 degrees over, just don't make sense.
You're telling me..

42 outside 75 intake... Like Wtf...
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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One your going from plastic to aluminum and plastic dissipates heat faster, two their end tanks are cast which take longer to heat up but longer to dissipate heat and 3 the pipes are powdercoated which is a big heat retainer but it looks better and protects against corrosion. The difference matters mostly when your driving or at wot.
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 08:38 PM
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Nevermind
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe09SS
You're telling me..

42 outside 75 intake... Like Wtf...
IAT 1 or IAT 2? What does it do when you start cruising?
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 09:42 PM
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I was cruising and it was still high temps.

The temps I'm going off of is the one in the dash then the intake off the rpd
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 09:50 PM
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That's strange cause I have RPD too, even I am on mild steel pipes. I only seeing about 15 degree above temperature cruising. Then when I hit the boost, it instantly drop down close to 5 degrees above temperature.
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 10:12 PM
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Well I just drove home and started out driving was about 3 degrees and after about 15 minute ride home it was about 8 degree difference but I didn't boost it at all
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 10:48 PM
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Sounds normal for powdercoated aluminum piping man don't worry about it
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Omiotek
Sounds normal for powdercoated aluminum piping man don't worry about it
Alright thanks just was a little worried at first. Thought I messed something up but its pretty straight forward and I'm mechanically inclined a bit so I was just stumped lol
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No problem
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 12:05 AM
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Sounds like a good idea to get the pipes ceramic treated
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 01:14 AM
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Sounds like a good idea to get the pipes ceramic treated
Not needed, everyone else that has a zzp intercooler has zero issues. As if the rpd is accurate for everything anyway
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 01:21 AM
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So is the RPD "inlet temp" from the IAT1 or 2? MAF or tmap? Because with stock intercooler but zzp charge pipes, I am usually showing ambient temp or a degree above.
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 02:08 AM
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Ceramnic keeps heat on......you want it gone from charge pipes
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by m33pm33p
Not needed, everyone else that has a zzp intercooler has zero issues. As if the rpd is accurate for everything anyway
The temps seen in the rpd come from the same exact sources that would be seen in a log tough guy. So yes, it's as accurate as you could hope to get assuming his sensors are good and reporting accurately.
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
The temps seen in the rpd come from the same exact sources that would be seen in a log tough guy. So yes, it's as accurate as you could hope to get assuming his sensors are good and reporting accurately.
Exactly what I was thinking
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 11:21 AM
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Also, You get to watch IAT temperature on RPD that way you don't want to be boosting hot IAT to your turbo.
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Omiotek
Ceramnic keeps heat on......you want it gone from charge pipes
From using the pipes as a heat exchanger it makes little different (Padlock and I had a discussion in another thread, google plastic heat exchangers) the fluid extracting the heat (air) is a poor fluid for heat removal, so the differences between plastic and metal are insignificant.

What is important is all the air damns GM originally installed, if you miss or don't re-install one it will effect the temp recover.
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1

The temps seen in the rpd come from the same exact sources that would be seen in a log tough guy. So yes, it's as accurate as you could hope to get assuming his sensors are good and reporting accurately.
I was thinking that. I mean sometimes my intake temp is lower than ambient... But that's because I have just started the car and then started driving which I think is when you are supposed to go by the temps not just after starting the car right?
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