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Old 12-10-2008, 12:23 AM
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Im saying that the lower octane helped the higher octane spark, since there was way less high octane that low...
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" A common misconception is that power output or fuel mileage can be improved by burning higher octane fuel than a particular engine was designed for. The power output of an engine depends in part on the energy density of its fuel, but similar fuels with different octane ratings have similar density. Since switching to a higher octane fuel does not add any more hydrocarbon content or oxygen, the engine cannot produce more power."

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all im saying is its not like having just 119 octane in there and having it spark it not better than just sparking 93 but it helps by having the 93 and a litttle 119 in there
you are just digging yourself deeper sunshine

Originally Posted by ShortStack
Im saying that the lower octane helped the higher octane spark, since there was way less high octane that low...
just admit you did a dumb thing and move on.

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Originally Posted by SS FREAK
ok so go put 87 in ur little evo and see ho well it runs..
That would cause pre-ignition. You ever heard of knock as people incorrectly call it all the time? That's a bad thing. Running too low of an octane for your setup will cause this. However, the higher the octane of a gasoline (more 8 carbon chains per unit) you use, the more resistance to ignition or the harder it is to burn. More energy is required for a clean burn of each unit of gasoline. This means that if you go higher than the lowest possible octane that doesn't cause detonation/pre-ignition, you are either not burning all of the fuel in each combustion reaction or it is not burning as fast as and consistently as the lower octane gasoline. Obviously you don't believe me, which means you don't know what you're talking about. By the way, my little evo would run you down if i launched in 3rd gear
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another one-

"Higher octane fuel has only one beneficial feature - it allows an engine to run at higher temperatures with more advanced ignition timing under higher levels of compression witout detonating / knocking. Higher octane fuel does NOT have more potential energy and will not make an engine perform better unless that engine is knocking. On modern engines with knock sensors, higher octane fuel may make the engine run better if the knock sensors are retarding the ignition timing, which hinders performance. High octane fuel does not burn cleaner, it does not clean your engine, it does not increase horsepower or torque (unless you are experiencing knock), it does not smell better, it does not increase fuel economy (unless you are experiencing knock) and is not better for the environment. If you buy higher octane fuels for any of the above reasons, STOP!"

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Thats why he didnt use all high octane..

Jesus do you people read at all????
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Originally Posted by SS FREAK
ok so go put 87 in ur little evo and see ho well it runs..
No one said he was.

**** face.

He told you should use the lowest octane without knocking.
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MMM but i love me some tittie pics.
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
Thats why he didnt use all high octane..

Jesus do you people read at all????
It is still more than likely too high.

IIRC that is about the same octane as Meth.
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
Thats why he didnt use all high octane..

Jesus do you people read at all????
moron, read. you are wrong just admit it. trying to say adding just a little will help is just as wrong as saying alot will help. its not that hard of a concept
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Im not defending what he did and saying it was right...

Your just not arguing with the right information.
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umm.... thats exactly the right information
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And sorry, im not a moron.. Thanks though...

It seems that no one can get a point across without calling someone stupid.
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Originally Posted by Darwin
That would cause pre-ignition. You ever heard of knock as people incorrectly call it all the time? That's a bad thing. Running too low of an octane for your setup will cause this. However, the higher the octane of a gasoline (more 8 carbon chains per unit) you use, the more resistance to ignition or the harder it is to burn. More energy is required for a clean burn of each unit of gasoline. This means that if you go higher than the lowest possible octane that doesn't cause detonation/pre-ignition, you are either not burning all of the fuel in each combustion reaction or it is not burning as fast as and consistently as the lower octane gasoline. Obviously you don't believe me, which means you don't know what you're talking about. By the way, my little evo would run you down if i launched in 3rd gear
ur little evo would probably break before it even got to 3rd gear..
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No, i wasnt stating you, and i was talking about the information HE gave on his OP.

He said he didnt notice any gains. The second post was someone saying "YOU DDINT FEEL ANY GAINS YOUR STUPID"
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Originally Posted by SS FREAK
ur little evo would probably break before it even got to 3rd gear..
Shut up.

Seriously... you are a joke.
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you guys fail, and hard. shortstack noone would be calling you stupid or a moron, if you were not speaking like one. facts have been thrown in your face and you still wont listen. thus, you are a moron
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[QUOTE=hatrickstu;3188628]morons-

" A common misconception is that power output or fuel mileage can be improved by burning higher octane fuel than a particular engine was designed for. The power output of an engine depends in part on the energy density of its fuel, but similar fuels with different octane ratings have similar density. Since switching to a higher octane fuel does not add any more hydrocarbon content or oxygen, the engine cannot produce more power."

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so hold on ur telling me if you tune to a higher octane you will not produce more power? rightttt..
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
No, i wasnt stating you, and i was talking about the information HE gave on his OP.

He said he didnt notice any gains. The second post was someone saying "YOU DDINT FEEL ANY GAINS YOUR STUPID"
and about it making his car run cleaner, better, etc.
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[QUOTE=SS FREAK;3188682]
Originally Posted by hatrickstu
morons-

" A common misconception is that power output or fuel mileage can be improved by burning higher octane fuel than a particular engine was designed for. The power output of an engine depends in part on the energy density of its fuel, but similar fuels with different octane ratings have similar density. Since switching to a higher octane fuel does not add any more hydrocarbon content or oxygen, the engine cannot produce more power."

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so hold on ur telling me if you tune to a higher octane you will not produce more power? rightttt..
Not with out turning up the timing.

And learn how to quote SS FREAK(with caps OH NOEZ)
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[QUOTE=SS FREAK;3188682]
Originally Posted by hatrickstu
morons-

" A common misconception is that power output or fuel mileage can be improved by burning higher octane fuel than a particular engine was designed for. The power output of an engine depends in part on the energy density of its fuel, but similar fuels with different octane ratings have similar density. Since switching to a higher octane fuel does not add any more hydrocarbon content or oxygen, the engine cannot produce more power."

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so hold on ur telling me if you tune to a higher octane you will not produce more power? rightttt..
dear God are you serious? thats not what its saying at all. you are not tuned for that octance level. guess what, i use a different tune at the track. you know why? because i have a more aggressive timing map i am able to use because the higher octane is less likely to knock with that timing map. comprende?
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just admit you did a dumb thing and move on.

If you would have read, i didnt do it.

Again, someone not completely reading the sentence..

He said that he just used a little bit of high octane so it wouldnt mess with his spark too much..

Someone though he said he added high octane to increase spark.. which wasnt what he said...
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sorry guys you two win the internets, have fun getting your asses left at when you talk about this to some real car guys.
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
If you would have read, i didnt do it.

Again, someone not completely reading the sentence..

He said that he just used a little bit of high octane so it wouldnt mess with his spark too much..

Someone though he said he added high octane to increase spark.. which wasnt what he said...
All it did was waste his money and kill a few more trees.

Your car can't turn up spark...only down
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u people are pretty illiterate

Originally Posted by steddy2112
All it did was waste his money and kill a few more trees.

Your car can't turn up spark...only down
haha so u cant increase spark.. lol

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