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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 12:00 AM
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2.9 pulley with GM stage 2, reliable?

Hi guys, like the title said, I wondering if it safe to run a 2.9 pulley with the GM stage 2 kit ? It must stay really safe... so, any opinions?

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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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If you want it to be really safe, then no. Your idc's will be through the roof meaning your injectors will be maxed and then some.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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Should be fine, but to be safe run a 3.0.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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Gm stage 2 pulley size is ? 3.0 ?
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Im running a Gm stage 2 and a 2.9 pulley and have no problems at all. I also have a ZZP heat exchanger upgrade and temps are low.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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If you want it to be really safe, then no. Your idc's will be through the roof meaning your injectors will be maxed and then some.
Yup.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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It's not worth it because if you heat up and boost more you'll prob end up pulling timing and w/e.
Take the 50 for the 2.9 and put it towards a 3.0 and custom tune, trust me you can get a good thing going with 3.0 and 42's .
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by hawkeyez
Im running a Gm stage 2 and a 2.9 pulley and have no problems at all. I also have a ZZP heat exchanger upgrade and temps are low.
what are your iat2 temps on a 90 degree humid day? just curious cuz i had the stg 2 tune with my 2.9 for a while
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Hard to take a decision.. some say its great, and other say its not recommended... I think that I'll keep my 3.0 pulley...

Guys with 2.9 pulley on stage 2, did you really noticed a difference over the 3.0 ?
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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i say go for it, a lot of people run the 2.9 on stoc stgII tune, the stgII is tuned to rich anyway, should be fine...although dual pass and a second h/e will help your cooling aswell
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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i say go for it, a lot of people run the 2.9 on stoc stgII tune, the stgII is tuned to rich anyway, should be fine...although dual pass and a second h/e will help your cooling aswell
I'll check it out...
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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stage 2 pulley size is 3.065. through personal experience i would vote no. my car was LEAN on the low end. if you drop to a 2.9, find a dyno that can rear air/fuel, and make sure you're safe. people tend to only look at the injector flow rates and not the air/fuel ratio.

one thing to note is, there are people who will swear its safe and have proof, while there will be others (like me) who say don't do it. every car is a little different and will take to mods differently. you can either play it really safe (keep the stage 2 pulley), somewhat safe (throw the 2.9 on and do a dyno run to check everything out), or be really dangerous and just do it and not look back. lol. i chose the 3rd route and luckily i did my tune a lot sooner than originally planned.

btw, i didn't notice really any difference. boost picked up slightly sooner, but i didn't have any cooling, so i really didn't feel a power difference. at times felt slower than stage 2.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHarr18
stage 2 pulley size is 3.065. through personal experience i would vote no. my car was LEAN on the low end. if you drop to a 2.9, find a dyno that can rear air/fuel, and make sure you're safe. people tend to only look at the injector flow rates and not the air/fuel ratio.

one thing to note is, there are people who will swear its safe and have proof, while there will be others (like me) who say don't do it. every car is a little different and will take to mods differently. you can either play it really safe (keep the stage 2 pulley), somewhat safe (throw the 2.9 on and do a dyno run to check everything out), or be really dangerous and just do it and not look back. lol. i chose the 3rd route and luckily i did my tune a lot sooner than originally planned.

btw, i didn't notice really any difference. boost picked up slightly sooner, but i didn't have any cooling, so i really didn't feel a power difference. at times felt slower than stage 2.
I have an Interceptor gauge and a A/F gauge to install before. But you're right. If I have to do it, I'll be sure before that everything is perfect... Like I said before, I really want to stay safe.

Someone already installed an Interceptor gauge on cobalt's ? I bought it before for my GTP and I read on the Aeroforce website that it needed 3 wires to make run the gauge but mine only have the red one, with my obdII plug of course, Is it will work all the same? On wich power source could I plug the red wire?

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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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If you want more power out of your car simply get retuned instead of dropping pulley sizes.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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I don't know, I went from a 3.0 pulley to 2.9 pulley and my A/F went up about .5 or so at WOT so I needed a new tune. I don't think I'd feel safe going all the way from 3.065 to 2.9, but that is just me. Your injectors aren't going to be maxxed out on a 2.9 pulley. Mine are at 76% so all is well. Obviously elevation could play an important role.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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Elevation and air to fuel ratio play a big role into it, I have seen a lot of 42lbers being maxed out on a 2.9 pulley but it just depends on what afr they are running.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 11:17 PM
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What can your injector duty cycle being at 140% lead to in the long run?

My uhh.. Friend has that
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ChriSS/SC
What can your injector duty cycle being at 140% lead to in the long run?

My uhh.. Friend has that
At 140% IDC he would have had to see the A/F ratio was not ideal.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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Ok.. But lets say the car runs at 140%... What is the problem that it will lead to in the long run exactly?
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chriss/sc
ok.. But lets say the car runs at 140%... What is the problem that it will lead to in the long run exactly?
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 02:27 AM
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 02:55 AM
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i have stage 2 with 2.9 and 42lb injectors and i have no problem wat so ever runs and pulls fine
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Originally Posted by ChriSS/SC
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I had to laugh at this as well, lol.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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My IDC's were at 122% @7K rpm. I ran GM Stage 2 on 2.9 for over 2 years with no issues at all. But the injectors are considered 'maxed out' at 80%. So maybe that will give you an idea on how hard the injectors are working if they're at 120%+.
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