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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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210lb/hr Injectors Will they Work

I have found a set of bosch high impedance injectors that push out 210lb per hour and are high impedance injectors. Wondering if they may work.

Maybe a better solution for e-85

210lb/hour Bosch Fuel Injector with Denso Connector [0280158821] - $169.99 : EFI Components!, Fuel, Forced Induction, Engines and More!!!

Heres the link maybe some of the tuners can jump in and put forth some knowledge on this.
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Holy lord those are massive.

I dont think you would be able to get those to idle, some people have trouble getting 80's to idle. They are like 230lb/hr on our fuel pressure. (Didnt do math, just threw a number out there)
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Why exactly do you need this much fuel? You wouldn't need this much if you were on a 2.5 on a tvs with e
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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not sure if our fuel pump can keep up with that...
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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why stop that small? get some 440lb/hr injectors like all of the cool kids have
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 01:35 AM
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why stop that small? get some 440lb/hr injectors like all of the cool kids have
Is that good for 4006 HP?
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 01:43 AM
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4012hp dont sell them short
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
why stop that small? get some 440lb/hr injectors like all of the cool kids have
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 02:12 AM
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Holy **** *****... Good luck trying to idle.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
Is that good for 4006 HP?
almost, you have to add a single 16lb/hr injector in addition to the 440's right after the MAF to hit those levels
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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Just a discussion is all not looking at doing anything at the moment just a discussion.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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those are good for like 850-900hp on E85... a LOT of evo guys are maxing out the FIC 1050's in the 400hp range on E85... those injectors will idle like stock as well if its the new high impedence stuff that the Injector Dynamics and EFIWizard stuff is...
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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My evo has 220# injectors on E85 by injector dynamics. I believe they are the same base injector as this but modified.

One thing to note is that you'll need a 1.024ms minimum injector pulsewidth in order to idle properly. Even lower on pump gas.
It will have a hard time hitting stoich when in closed loop at idle.

Let me know if u have. Any questions as I have a lot of experience with this type of application.

Didn't really read any of the replies.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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I think those would drain your gas tank faster then gas station pump flows
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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My Evo has 3 255lph walbros and I'm running 50psi base fuel pressure to keep up.

Though there are other ways to climb the mountain than giant injectors.....
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Phyrric
I think those would drain your gas tank faster then gas station pump flows
This
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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2.2 gallons per minute at WOT lol
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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Well maybe not at WOT unless you are running enough boost to necessitate that much fuel.

If you were flowing enough air to match the max fuel flow of these injectors at base fuel pressure that'd be 75% more fuel flow than a bughatti veyron at full clip. So given equivalent bsfc you'd expect around 1750bhp.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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so, you would want this if you were triple charged? 1 small turbo on each 2 exhaust ports (2 turbos) while still keeping the supercharger with a 2.6" pulley running around 34 psi?

I bet I can make them idle on my car though..... my mpw would be fairly high though
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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On a 3076R @ 34psi I'm at 65% duty cycle on the 220# injectors.

Why would your min ipw be high?
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty25RS
My Evo has 3 255lph walbros and I'm running 50psi base fuel pressure to keep up.

Though there are other ways to climb the mountain than giant injectors.....
I thought you can only fit two walbros in your tank?

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so, you would want this if you were triple charged? 1 small turbo on each 2 exhaust ports (2 turbos) while still keeping the supercharger with a 2.6" pulley running around 34 psi?

I bet I can make them idle on my car though..... my mpw would be fairly high though
Dont be so sure of that.

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On a 3076R @ 34psi I'm at 65% duty cycle on the 220# injectors.

Why would your min ipw be high?
He thinks that is what is going to make his car idle...
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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On a s259et and 25 psi I was only about 70 idc with a 42lb bar pressure. I doubt you should get a stock ecu to control those
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
He thinks that is what is going to make his car idle...
I already played around so much with my #80s and the only thing that would make them idle perfect was increasing the mpw from 0 (like most of you use) to 4.00, messing with the injector fuel table would not help. I prefer to keep the injector table like it should be per the spread sheet and not decrease it. Highest IDC ive seen was maybe 55% at WOT.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by moranjames89
I already played around so much with my #80s and the only thing that would make them idle perfect was increasing the mpw from 0 (like most of you use) to 4.00, messing with the injector fuel table would not help. I prefer to keep the injector table like it should be per the spread sheet and not decrease it. Highest IDC ive seen was maybe 55% at WOT.
We are talking minimum pulse width not short pulse limit...
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
I thought you can only fit two walbros in your tank?



He thinks that is what is going to make his car idle...
My fuel systems a little more elaborate than you are imaging.

All a high min ipw is gonna do is make the car idle pig rich and foul plugs and plug cats unless you wanna idle at 3krpm.
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