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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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my afr is around 13.8-14.2 at WOT this is very bad right? what are some causes besides tuning?
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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yes that is very bad. it could be many things. what was your AFR before?
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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not good.
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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cruising/idle its around 14.6-15.2
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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So it's not getting much more rich when you mash on the throttle as compared to idle/cruise?
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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i actually have a similar question regarding afr. i have a 2.8 pully and a fairly mild tune, when i go wot my afr comes down to like a 10.9-11.1 which i know is rich but its a safe tune bc i dont have cooling mods yet.
but when i go like 50-80% throttle and like 8-13psi my afr stays around 13.8 14.2 am i running to lean at non wot or is it ok bc im not makeing full power?

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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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So it's not getting much more rich when you mash on the throttle as compared to idle/cruise?
correct

btw i have a 3.2 pulley on stock injectors with a tune (w/ 3 in intake and full exhaust)

could this cause my car to go into limp mode?

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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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I dont see why.. Is it?
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Supercharged06
i actually have a similar question regarding afr. i have a 2.8 pully and a fairly mild tune, when i go wot my afr comes down to like a 10.9-11.1 which i know is rich but its a safe tune bc i dont have cooling mods yet.
but when i go like 50-80% throttle and like 8-13psi my afr stays around 13.8 14.2 am i running to lean at non wot or is it ok bc im not makeing full power?

srry for the thread jack
nah your okay, the car just isnt going into power enrichment yet because it doesnt need to

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correct

btw i have a 3.2 pulley on stock injectors with a tune (w/ 3 in intake and full exhaust)

could this cause my car to go into limp mode?
stock injectors are pretty much maxed on stock pulley. you could simply just not be flowing enough fuel
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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I dont see why.. Is it?
it goes into limp mode after about 20 min of driving and stay in it all day start it the next day and drives fine at cruising speeds
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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nah your okay, the car just isnt going into power enrichment yet because it doesnt need tol
thanks blazin did the coils show up yet?
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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nah your okay, the car just isnt going into power enrichment yet because it doesnt need to



stock injectors are pretty much maxed on stock pulley. you could simply just not be flowing enough fuel
yea i thought about that as well, before i tried this set up i talked with a few people who ran/tuned for this set up before and said they had good luck with it, maybe my tune isnt up to par, idk i do have some dtcs ill post up after i run to the store to scan em
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not yet, they should be here soon though
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OP are you on the stock tune?
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:56 AM
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Yeah they r prolly maxed out and going static then.
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ACESSbalt - It's the tune man, even if the injectors are maxed you should still be seeing the correct afr down low. Is your maf dialed in? Are you running a maf only tune or ve only tune or a blend of both? Are you going into PE mode? Whats your PE Enable tps set at? If you need some tuning help let me know.

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i actually have a similar question regarding afr. i have a 2.8 pully and a fairly mild tune, when i go wot my afr comes down to like a 10.9-11.1 which i know is rich but its a safe tune bc i dont have cooling mods yet.
but when i go like 50-80% throttle and like 8-13psi my afr stays around 13.8 14.2 am i running to lean at non wot or is it ok bc im not makeing full power?

srry for the thread jack
I would lower your PE enable tps, if you are 80% full throttle and not in PE then it's set to high in my opinion, especially for modded people.

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Originally Posted by ACESSbalt
yea i thought about that as well, before i tried this set up i talked with a few people who ran/tuned for this set up before and said they had good luck with it, maybe my tune isnt up to par, idk i do have some dtcs ill post up after i run to the store to scan em
If possible you need to get a log of the car. Chances are you are maxing the injectors, but you shouldn't be maxing them until over 5K RPM. Under that the AFR should be fine. If it is lean all the time then your tune is definitatly out of whack. I don't suppose you have any way of putting up the tune so it can be looked at...
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Originally Posted by Supercharged06
i actually have a similar question regarding afr. i have a 2.8 pully and a fairly mild tune, when i go wot my afr comes down to like a 10.9-11.1 which i know is rich but its a safe tune bc i dont have cooling mods yet.
but when i go like 50-80% throttle and like 8-13psi my afr stays around 13.8 14.2 am i running to lean at non wot or is it ok bc im not makeing full power?

srry for the thread jack
ummm yeah, 10.9-11.1 is super lean!
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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ummm yeah, 10.9-11.1 is super lean!
Uh no its not...
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I would lower your PE enable tps, if you are 80% full throttle and not in PE then it's set to high in my opinion, especially for modded people.
Definitely a good idea. I have PE kick in at about 5 psi no matter what the throttle % is.
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Originally Posted by Zach06CobaltSC
ACESSbalt - It's the tune man, even if the injectors are maxed you should still be seeing the correct afr down low. Is your maf dialed in? Are you running a maf only tune or ve only tune or a blend of both? Are you going into PE mode? Whats your PE Enable tps set at? If you need some tuning help let me know.

I would lower your PE enable tps, if you are 80% full throttle and not in PE then it's set to high in my opinion, especially for modded people.
Listen to this guy ^^^

Not this guy

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ummm yeah, 10.9-11.1 is super lean!
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Definitely a good idea. I have PE kick in at about 5 psi no matter what the throttle % is.
same here.
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listen to this guy ^^^

not this guy

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ummm yeah, 10.9-11.1 is super lean!
hahahahahahahahaha
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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ha ha lol, i actually meant super rich not lean. i was reading another post and mistyped my words. sorry.
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Its all good I just thought the post was funny.
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