alky injection installed, less boost?
alky injection installed, less boost?
well tonight i installed my coolingmist deluxe kit with m5 nozzle and i put in 50/50 meth and water windsheild washer fluid and the chargers cooler than before the alky kit but im seeing less boost, anyone know if the mixture could cause this or what? thanks
some people will say it's ok to spray that before the blower but i still say no, and the guys at intense agreed with me. i wouldn't shoot through the blower man. that's why i took mine off in the first place when i found out it was bad for the supercharger.
Originally Posted by selfinfliction
some people will say it's ok to spray that before the blower but i still say no, and the guys at intense agreed with me. i wouldn't shoot through the blower man. that's why i took mine off in the first place when i found out it was bad for the supercharger.
Well when I had my 01 Z24 with the GM charger I had an Alky kit setup just like this guy, then a month or 2 later my blower started to make a grinding noise. Had it rebuilt a near by perormance shop and the tech told me that if you run it pre blower this will happen all the time. He also told me that it leads to 60% of there rebuilds.
Originally Posted by charged_sunfire
i placed the nozzle right before the throttle body about 5 inches away, im gonna check my T fittings and all today since its light out and see what happens, thanks guys.
Originally Posted by eastcoastz
Well when I had my 01 Z24 with the GM charger I had an Alky kit setup just like this guy, then a month or 2 later my blower started to make a grinding noise. Had it rebuilt a near by perormance shop and the tech told me that if you run it pre blower this will happen all the time. He also told me that it leads to 60% of there rebuilds.
What mix were you running? Was it meth or alcohol? What kind of supercharger was it because I wasn't aware that the Z24 had a supercharger?
denser air = less boost , since the s/c doesnt have to work as hard to get its effency
you should have more power overall , even with the lower boost level , because of the added effency
and for your mix , your using a 50/50 mix of meth and water , and added washer fluid to the mix ??
you want to run between 40-45% meth , the balance in distilled water
being that the cobalt is intercooled to begin with , id just beusing straight distilled water
methanol is a corrosive fuel , and in higher levels is said to eat the coating off the s/c rotors
how much of that i believe , im not sure of , since ive know alot of people to use it with no problems for over 70,000 miles
you should have more power overall , even with the lower boost level , because of the added effency
and for your mix , your using a 50/50 mix of meth and water , and added washer fluid to the mix ??
you want to run between 40-45% meth , the balance in distilled water
being that the cobalt is intercooled to begin with , id just beusing straight distilled water
methanol is a corrosive fuel , and in higher levels is said to eat the coating off the s/c rotors
how much of that i believe , im not sure of , since ive know alot of people to use it with no problems for over 70,000 miles
Originally Posted by SRT-4_UK
What mix were you running? Was it meth or alcohol? What kind of supercharger was it because I wasn't aware that the Z24 had a supercharger?
GM made a kit for the 2.4 twin cams as a upgrade
ive got the proto type on my cav , click link for pic
http://www.azjbo.org/forum/garage.ph...od&image_id=33
There are alot of guys running alky on boosted vehicles. I deal alot with the grand prixs and the M90s and most of those guys put the nozzle between the throttle body and the super
as for less boost, it has to do with cooler air at the same denscity at less PSI. there for you can add more air with out creating dentation. the idea of alky is to cool the air to add boost. it is the same reason why a intercooler is added too
as for less boost, it has to do with cooler air at the same denscity at less PSI. there for you can add more air with out creating dentation. the idea of alky is to cool the air to add boost. it is the same reason why a intercooler is added too
well im using windsheild washer fluid right now and all i could find was 8% meth and 92% water so this could also be why im seeing less boost maybe, im getting some pure meth this week and mixing it in a 1 gallon jug so its 50/50 with water and that should fix my problem but the fluid im using now seems to cool the charger off decently to where its alittle warm.
bringing a dead thread back, i called autometer cause i see that my vac when the car is off is at -2 and they said the gauge is out of calibration and to send it in for a new one with no paperwork needed, so hell yeah.
here ya go, the blue ziptie is only temporary as the injector its holding for the meth injection will be tapped into a throttle body plate between the charger and the throttle body so it wont short out my TPS due to water getting in there from the injection.




Originally Posted by 97cavie24ls
denser air = less boost , since the s/c doesnt have to work as hard to get its effency
you should have more power overall , even with the lower boost level , because of the added effency
and for your mix , your using a 50/50 mix of meth and water , and added washer fluid to the mix ??
you want to run between 40-45% meth , the balance in distilled water
being that the cobalt is intercooled to begin with , id just beusing straight distilled water
methanol is a corrosive fuel , and in higher levels is said to eat the coating off the s/c rotors
how much of that i believe , im not sure of , since ive know alot of people to use it with no problems for over 70,000 miles
you should have more power overall , even with the lower boost level , because of the added effency
and for your mix , your using a 50/50 mix of meth and water , and added washer fluid to the mix ??
you want to run between 40-45% meth , the balance in distilled water
being that the cobalt is intercooled to begin with , id just beusing straight distilled water
methanol is a corrosive fuel , and in higher levels is said to eat the coating off the s/c rotors
how much of that i believe , im not sure of , since ive know alot of people to use it with no problems for over 70,000 miles
Cool air is dense, Hot air is thinner
There is no teflon coating on our rotors that meth will hurt!
You need some meth for the octane, the water alone is NOT enough!
My Impala has over 20K HARD A$$ miles and god knows how many gallons of washer fluid and the SC and motor looked great! The pistons had no carbon and the valves looked fantastic!
WI works and i have proved it over and over and over and over and over
Originally Posted by FAST06SS
I don't think i can take much more of the BS info being shared on here
Cool air is dense, Hot air is thinner
There is no teflon coating on our rotors that meth will hurt!
You need some meth for the octane, the water alone is NOT enough!
My Impala has over 20K HARD A$$ miles and god knows how many gallons of washer fluid and the SC and motor looked great! The pistons had no carbon and the valves looked fantastic!
WI works and i have proved it over and over and over and over and over
Cool air is dense, Hot air is thinner
There is no teflon coating on our rotors that meth will hurt!
You need some meth for the octane, the water alone is NOT enough!
My Impala has over 20K HARD A$$ miles and god knows how many gallons of washer fluid and the SC and motor looked great! The pistons had no carbon and the valves looked fantastic!
WI works and i have proved it over and over and over and over and over
Originally Posted by FAST06SS
I don't think i can take much more of the BS info being shared on here
Cool air is dense, Hot air is thinner
There is no teflon coating on our rotors that meth will hurt!
You need some meth for the octane, the water alone is NOT enough!
My Impala has over 20K HARD A$$ miles and god knows how many gallons of washer fluid and the SC and motor looked great! The pistons had no carbon and the valves looked fantastic!
WI works and i have proved it over and over and over and over and over
Cool air is dense, Hot air is thinner
There is no teflon coating on our rotors that meth will hurt!
You need some meth for the octane, the water alone is NOT enough!
My Impala has over 20K HARD A$$ miles and god knows how many gallons of washer fluid and the SC and motor looked great! The pistons had no carbon and the valves looked fantastic!
WI works and i have proved it over and over and over and over and over
We need a sticky post with this info on top of the forumn so all can read and you won't have to repeat yourself 100 times in each thread on here.
Originally Posted by ENUFPWR
We need a sticky post with this info on top of the forumn so all can read and you won't have to repeat yourself 100 times in each thread on here.

Originally Posted by denny
Yes, I agree with you. FAST06SS has nothing but real world FACTS and still people dont believe. FAST06SS could you write a quick " FACTS on Water/Meth Injections" I would make it a sticky.!! Then again a lot of people are too lazy to read
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+1. I doubt he has time, but it would be very benificial having a write-up on water injection.
Originally Posted by denny
Anybody with water/ Meth injection experience want to do a "How to Install"?
Also, I am putting a Devil's Own kit in within the next couple weeks so I could possibly do one on that.


