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Old May 16, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Ask your water meth questions here

I am here to help. Got a question ask it. If its good i will add it to our faq.

Some common questions about water methanol injection can be found here. http://www.alcohol-injection.com/faq.php?cID=1

Here is another good source of information. http://www.alcohol-injection.com/forum/



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Old May 16, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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what is the deal with tuning that you mention on that site?
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Old May 16, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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General with water methanol injection you can run increased boost, an increased timing. You can also usually pull a slight amount of fuel because you are adding some with the meth injection kit. I would not recommend going more than 5% pulled fuel.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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So how I do I make the car squirt extra fuel?
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Old May 16, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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what size nozzles would you reccommend for direct injection for 2.0 lsj, ~300hp
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Old May 16, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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Through tuning...

To get the full benefits of methanol injection you need to be tuned. When you run a mixture of methanol instead of just straight water your air to fuel ratio will richen. Through tuning you can lean the car out to the proper air to fuel ratio and you will no longer be rich.

There are many benefits to water/meth injection including higher octane which will help stop knock and allow you to run higher amounts of boost without detonation. With that being said I highly recommend that everyone who runs methanol injection gets tuned. Otherwise you should just be running straight water injection in my opinion.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by redcobalt07
So how I do I make the car squirt extra fuel?
Well you need a meth kit to squirt the extra fuel, you will setup your car to squirt less gas threw tunning.
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what size nozzles would you reccommend for direct injection for 2.0 lsj, ~300hp
I would run 4 do.75 nozzles. i know it may sound small but when you put the nozzles closer you usually willl run smaller nozzles.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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what size nozzle would you suggest for a lsj turbo swap making about 370whp. it will be right before the throttle body
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Old May 17, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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what does everyone tap into for the 12v ign for the relay? also how is everyone routing the meth line from their trunk to the engine?
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Old May 18, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Zach06CobaltSC
Through tuning...

To get the full benefits of methanol injection you need to be tuned. When you run a mixture of methanol instead of just straight water your air to fuel ratio will richen. Through tuning you can lean the car out to the proper air to fuel ratio and you will no longer be rich.

There are many benefits to water/meth injection including higher octane which will help stop knock and allow you to run higher amounts of boost without detonation. With that being said I highly recommend that everyone who runs methanol injection gets tuned. Otherwise you should just be running straight water injection in my opinion.
On this note, there is an easy way to take advantage of meth now. In addition to your own custom tuning, you can activate GM Stage 3's High Octane Mode and instantly add timing to take advantage of the increased octane. (HOM adds timing across the board vs RPM)

Just another reason to pick up a devilsown kit.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DVSk8er
what size nozzle would you suggest for a lsj turbo swap making about 370whp. it will be right before the throttle body
I would start off with a do5 nozzle. you may also run well with a do7 nozzle. Just depends on what your inlet air temps are looking like. so i would recomend getting a kit with both nozzles and try them both out just dpends on your tune and your location.



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what does everyone tap into for the 12v ign for the relay? also how is everyone routing the meth line from their trunk to the engine?
our controllers only pull a few pico amps off both the ignation and the battery. so you can hook the orange wire up to anything that has power with the key on. the pump it self is what pulls all the juice. We are one of the very few that do not pull all this current threw the controllers. this is why ours works so much better.



Originally Posted by Pyros777
On this note, there is an easy way to take advantage of meth now. In addition to your own custom tuning, you can activate GM Stage 3's High Octane Mode and instantly add timing to take advantage of the increased octane. (HOM adds timing across the board vs RPM)

Just another reason to pick up a devilsown kit.
these unlocked stage 3 are a such a good deal for the comunity.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 04:36 AM
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i dont have a controller. i have a relay. so what should i tap yhe relay into to get power? and where would you recomend i run the meth lines?
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Old May 22, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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Old May 22, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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map sensor wire color

Which color wire does the green wire from controller tap into on the map sensor?
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Old May 23, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 06cobalt racer
i dont have a controller. i have a relay. so what should i tap yhe relay into to get power? and where would you recomend i run the meth lines?
Pin 30 of the relay you are going to want to hook that directly to 12 constant "battery always on"

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Which color wire does the green wire from controller tap into on the map sensor?
One the 2.5 bar map sensor your goign to hook up to the grey wire.
Here are the instructions. http://www.alcohol-injection.com/ins...rn_redline.pdf
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Old May 24, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Pin 30 of the relay you are going to want to hook that directly to 12 constant "battery always on"



One the 2.5 bar map sensor your goign to hook up to the grey wire.
Here are the instructions. http://www.alcohol-injection.com/ins...rn_redline.pdf
i thought there was a pin that needs hooked up to a 12 v
switched source too.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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Oh, yes pin 85 you will want to find ignation power so that the system can't come on when the car is off. You can go threw the fuses and look for one that does not have power when the car is off. This is only going to pull a slight amount of power from it.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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any other questions i can help with?
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 01:22 AM
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my tank is gettin vacuum since its a sealed unit how do i prevent the vacuum from accumulating?
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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do u have a check valve? or maybe a bad one
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Is meth as helpful for a turbo application as it is for a supercharger?
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by conerboner
Is meth as helpful for a turbo application as it is for a supercharger?
of course. just like a super charger it will allow a turbo to run more boost and timing
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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do u have a check valve? or maybe a bad one
the check valve is fine , i dont have a valve to release the vacuum as the tank drains its sealed tight the tank that is.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Omnigear
my tank is gettin vacuum since its a sealed unit how do i prevent the vacuum from accumulating?
Need to drill a small 1/32 hole in the lid of the tank. You can also take a needle and heat it up and pierce it.

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Is meth as helpful for a turbo application as it is for a supercharger?
Yes, anything that forced induction will make some good power with this.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by devilsown
Need to drill a small 1/32 hole in the lid of the tank. You can also take a needle and heat it up and pierce it.



Yes, anything that forced induction will make some good power with this.
even non forced induction can beneffit from a devilsown kit
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